Kevyn Adams GM thread

[joshjull]

I would not be shocked in the least if the total cash spend on the entire coaching staff since Adams became GM tracked with the total cash spend on the NHL roster.

Here is how things have gone with the roster spend under Adams:

Year 1 - 18th (the high water mark)
Year 2 - 31st
Year 3 - 30th
Year 4 - 29th
Year 5 - 27th

As soon as Ralph was shown his walking papers, Granato was given the job and was paid like a rookie coach.

But, they also had a smaller coaching staff in general under Granato from the assistants through the development coaches. And we heard all sorts of reasons why. But, given all the other areas where they have run light since Adams came in and was told to lay off a bunch of people, it sure seems to be an organizational trend.

We will never know the truth. But, the optics are not good.

Pegula has never spent a ton of cash on the roster relative to the rest of the league during his ownership tenure. So why is now some sort of conspiracy?

 

[yasky]

Who would want to come here in this current situation? Any vet would need to be vastly overpaid and be willing to be a scapegoat for when the team goes on its many losing benders. As I'm exiting my prime and getting up there in years why on Earth would I want to subject myself to this mess (unless I'm being grossly overpaid) when I could catch on somewhere that has an actual shot at the playoffs?

As an aside, can anyone confirm that Terry is still alive and kicking through all this?

 

[Jim Bob]

Pegula has never spent a ton of cash on the roster relative to the rest of the league during his ownership tenure. So why is now some sort of conspiracy?

It's not some sort of conspiracy.

It is just more evidence that Pegula is not interested in doing everything possible to bring a Stanley Cup to Buffalo like he proclaimed when he bought the team.

Who would want to come here in this current situation? Any vet would need to be vastly overpaid and be willing to be a scapegoat for when the team goes on its many losing benders. As I'm exiting my prime and getting up there in years why on Earth would I want to subject myself to this mess (unless I'm being grossly overpaid) when I could catch on somewhere that has an actual shot at the playoffs?

As an aside, can anyone confirm that Terry is still alive and kicking through all this?

Here is proof of life.

 

[HaNotsri]

I made a snarky comment about the team/Peterka yesterday and saw Sam Lafferty liked it.

The discord is mounting.


It’s kind of hilarious that Adams said he can’t get good UFAs literally while Zucker is outplaying 9/10 of the team.

Someone should ask Zucker how he avoids taxes and enjoys palm trees in Buffalo.

 

[BFLO]

What Terry Pegula had to say about firing Sabres coach, GM (transcript)

The owner discusses what led to firing Tim Murray and Dan Bylsma.

www.newyorkupstate.com

Terry after firing Murray & Bylsma:



And then after moving on from Botts:

Sabres fire GM Botterill in series of cost-cutting moves

BUFFALO, N.Y. (AP) — Buffalo Sabres owners Terry and Kim Pegula reversed course by firing general manager Jason Botterill on Tuesday as part of a drastic cost-cutting purge of front-office staff and scouts on a team preparing to sit idle for what could be the remainder of the calendar year.

apnews.com

Communication is a common theme between those two decisions. Since Adams has said that he talks to Terry every day, it seems like the communication is there...

Yep. This is similar to what I said a few pages back. Terry fired Murray and Botts over "communication". Which translates from Pegulaspeek to "They weren't Terry's b!tch boys like Kevyn is"

 

[BFLO]

I’m talking about what they spent relative to the cap. You’re talking about what they spent relative to the rest of the league. Those are two different things. One doesn’t refute the other and they can both be true. A team can be ranked in the teens and still be spending at, near or even above the upper limit.

We're not competing against the cap, we're competing against the other teams in the league. Comparing our spending against the cap is a useless exercise that you've used to try to downplay how cheap this team has been under Pegula.

Thats fine. But for me, it’s about Adams overrating of his own guys and not seeing the same roster needs we do.

The blatantly obvious example of overrating a player is his handling of Levi. The past two seasons have been about making the playoffs. Yet Adams, at the start of both, tried to force Levi into the starting goalie battle. He didn’t do it for budgetary reasons but because he thought it was best for Levi and the team. It was a bad assessment of the player and the situation.

I have a little trouble believing Adams is making similar bad assessments with other players at other positions on the team. So he doesn’t address needs we see.

It can be both.

Adams has obviously overrated his own guys. Like your Levi example.

Just like this team has obviously had a mandate to keep costs down.

And one does play into the other.

Step 1: Adams has a mandate from Pegula to keep costs down
Step 2: Adams overrates his own guys who all happen to be on ELCs and have low costs
Step 3: The season starts and the Sabres predictably struggle. "Aw shucks, my guys weren't as good as I hyped them to be. Guess it's another development year"

(Adams kept costs down by overrating his own guys and forcing them into the lineup and the cycle repeats)

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Dreger on Sabres Live, Kevin Adams wants to improve the team now, but there just is not a lot of activity out there right now.

 

[Fjordy]

Dreger, Kevin Adams wants to improve the team now, but there just is not a lot of activity out there right now.

A classic of the genre, the idiot sat in the summer and did almost nothing, but now, when few people are trading, he stirred. Let him sit without a playoff now and then they will fire him.

 

[oldgoalie]

Dreger on Sabres Live, Kevin Adams wants to improve the team now, but there just is not a lot of activity out there right now.

f*** that bullshit. there's been a series of moves lately. he's a lying sack of shit.

 

[May Day 10]

We have been hearing the same excuse for the last 2 complete year cycles.

Looking at past performance, I want someone else making those moves

 

[Jim Bob]

Former Oilers GM Ken Holland relishing NHL gig, but ‘not sure I enjoy a stress-free existence’

He’s sponging up life in the Hockey Ops department but, even at 69, he may never lose the GM itch.

www.dailyfaceoff.com

Holland had offers from multiple teams to join as an advisor. But that didn’t feel quite right. He prefers to have more decision-making power as opposed to being part of the furniture.

“We’ll see,” Holland said. “I’m enjoying this year and we’ll see what happens. Hopefully I can add to the Hockey Ops department.”

Holland has no shortage of options. He could continue on in Hockey Operations. But the hockey lifer admittedly still can’t quite kick the exhilaration of having skin in the game, the joy and pain of wins and losses.

“We’ll see,” Holland said. “For the first time, since July 1, I haven’t had any stress. It’s been an stress-free existence. But I’m not sure if I enjoy a stress-free existence.”

 

[OkimLom]

A classic of the genre, the idiot sat in the summer and did almost nothing, but now, when few people are trading, he stirred. Let him sit without a playoff now and then they will fire him.

It's the same story with Kevyn. Few people are trading early in the season, few people are selling and not available during the TDL, tough to make people want to come here during the offseason...When the F*** is a good time for Kevyn to make moves? It's always something with the guy.

 

[Gabrielor]

Dreger on Sabres Live, Kevin Adams wants to improve the team now, but there just is not a lot of activity out there right now.

No shit. His time to do this was two summers ago.

This is like complaining the teacher won't accept your late essay 2.5 years after you graduated.

You missed the boat my friend.

 

[Fjordy]

Former Oilers GM Ken Holland relishing NHL gig, but ‘not sure I enjoy a stress-free existence’

He’s sponging up life in the Hockey Ops department but, even at 69, he may never lose the GM itch.

www.dailyfaceoff.com

As I understand it, all these advisors do not play any significant role or plus they are paid less money than POHO or GM. Probably Holland would like to become POHO or does he still want a job as GM?

 

[Zman5778]

As I understand it, all these advisors do not play any significant role or plus they are paid less money than POHO or GM. Probably Holland would like to become POHO or does he still want a job as GM?

I don't think Holland cares about what his title is, as long as he has control/final say over the Hockey Department of a team.

 

[Jim Bob]

I don't think Holland cares about what his title is, as long as he has control/final say over the Hockey Department of a team.

I doubt Holland would take a job working for Pegula.

 

[Zman5778]

I doubt Holland would take a job working for Pegula.

I think the ONLY way that happens is if it's literally written into Holland's contract that he has final say in all hockey personnel matters.

And for now, I can't picture Terry agreeing to that.

 

[Fjordy]

I don't think Holland cares about what his title is, as long as he has control/final say over the Hockey Department of a team.

Not my first choice, but he's an experienced guy.

I doubt Holland would take a job working for Pegula.

But there's Jim Benning, he'd agree.

 

[1point21Gigawatts]

I think the ONLY way that happens is if it's literally written into Holland's contract that he has final say in all hockey personnel matters.

And for now, I can't picture Terry agreeing to that.

Has no one made the, "and how is that going for you?" argument to Tpegs? It's the most obvious answer to everyone but Adams and Terry.

 

[toddkaz]

Dreger on Sabres Live, Kevin Adams wants to improve the team now, but there just is not a lot of activity out there right now.

Kevyn - Take my trash for your star.

I mean if you give you will get. I really hate this excuse.

Also on top of that what was his excuse last year? Last trade deadline? Last draft? This off season.

How many times can he get get away with that excuse?

John Marino for 2 2nds boom. Done without even mortgaging the farm oh wait someone else already made that trade. Why didn't he make that trade? He is always on the phone so whats his excuse? Marino right handed defenseman with the right age to come in.

Why didn't he pick up Fabbro? What excuse there?

Colorado unhappy with their goalie? Made a trade in less than a week.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Kevyn - Take my trash for your star.

I mean if you give you will get. I really hate this excuse.

Also on top of that what was his excuse last year? Last trade deadline? Last draft? This off season.

How many times can I get get away with that excuse?

John Marino for 2 2nds boom. Done without even mortgaging the farm oh wait someone else already made that trade. Why didn't he make that trade? He is always on the phone so whats his excuse?

Why didn't he pick up Fabbro? What excuse there?

Marino NMC ?

Fabro's out 6-8 weeks now btw

I wonder what the internal thoughts/evaluation on Johnson's callup has been or they were giving other teams a look ?

 

[toddkaz]

Marino NMC ?

Fabro's out 6-8 weeks now btw

I wonder what the internal thoughts/evaluation on Jo been or they were giving other teams a look ?

So was Marino injured in training camp but its a different reality if he is in Buffalo...If Fabbro is here then that play doesn't happen.

Marino's 8 team NTC didn't kick until this season.