Kevyn Adams GM thread

[Jacob582]

I see a trend. When we like a player aquisition/move from the summer we give credit to Lindy. When we don't, we blame Kevyn.

 

[toddkaz]

I see a trend. When we like a player aquisition/move from the summer we give credit to Lindy. When we don't, we blame Kevyn.

I like the players Adams acquired. I don't like the prices he paid and unfortunately they haven't helped improve the team.

Adams has been incapable of getting this team to the playoffs.

Adams has had 5 years to acquire the right players to gel together and get to the playoffs.

 

[TehDoak]

Honestly, let's have a frank discussion here.

Terry Pegula is 73 years old. Typically, its rare for people to get LESS stubborn as they get older.

For significant changes to happen other than Adams getting canned and Terry finding another 1st time GM to come in and hope it works out, there has to be a realization by the Terry specifically that his way isn't the best way.

Think about what they have tried:

Hired former players to help, didn't work.

Hired someone with a hyper aggressive approach (Murray), didn't work
Hired a more traditional experience and patient approach (Botterill), didn't work
Hired someone with no experience but he personally trusted, hasn't worked.

The common thread here is him. Whatever level of interaction with the GMs, however much he is doing, whether its very little or as much as we all suspect, it needs to stop.

Until either we get someone in here who he trusts and can manage the Pegulas and successfully manage the team like Beane does or terry decides to run his team differently then we will see more of the same.

 

[Ace]

Didn't Terry feel scorned that outsider's told him to pick coaches/GM's? Thought I read that somewhere

Shouldn’t he feel burned by his own hire who is staring down the bullet on owning over 1/3rd of the drought with no plan?

Honestly, let's have a frank discussion here.

Terry Pegula is 73 years old. Typically, its rare for people to get LESS stubborn as they get older.

For significant changes to happen other than Adams getting canned and Terry finding another 1st time GM to come in and hope it works out, there has to be a realization by the Terry specifically that his way isn't the best way.

Think about what they have tried:

Hired former players to help, didn't work.

Hired someone with a hyper aggressive approach (Murray), didn't work
Hired a more traditional experience and patient approach (Botterill), didn't work
Hired someone with no experience but he personally trusted, hasn't worked.

The common thread here is him. Whatever level of interaction with the GMs, however much he is doing, whether its very little or as much as we all suspect, it needs to stop.

Until either we get someone in here who he trusts and can manage the Pegulas and successfully manage the team like Beane does or terry decides to run his team differently then we will see more of the same.

He needs to be inceptioned into believing it was his idea to get out of the way, hire an accomplished hockey man, and to give him the resources he needs.

 

[Fjordy]

I see a trend. When we like a player aquisition/move from the summer we give credit to Lindy. When we don't, we blame Kevyn.

Who said that? Adams made some good trades this offseason, but like last year and the year before, he made NO other key signings. No top 4 RD, no top 6 F. Ruff has limited resources and an unbalanced roster, as well as the youngest team.

 

[Sabresbyswords104]

Adams gone soon ?

 

[TageGod]

Adams gone soon ?

No.

 

[May Day 10]

He needs to be inceptioned into believing it was his idea to get out of the way, hire an accomplished hockey man, and to give him the resources he needs.

Pretty much
He and Kim believe they have some sort of other-worldly skill to judge people on their authenticity as well as if they would make a great employee. The wealth that Terry amassed emboldened them into thinking they are right near 100% of the time.

They have been burned so many times by what in reality is their awful judgement. Tons of dysfunction at the top of the business side of all their sports ventures.

We are stuck with all of Terry's discoveries and he is going to ride them out. Adams, Ellis, Appert are at the tip of the spear. The new nobody they hired in Rochester and Adam Mair are next in line. The front office is littered with people who would not be interviewed for a lateral move if they were fired tomorrow. But they "communicate" well or speak like a fake six sigma grad. Hearing pegulas most recent public comments (he hides now), when he hired adams, he seems to blame and lot of the failing in changes made (which were necessary and a result of bad hiring, ownership, and management). Pegula doesn't think it's his fault. It's the impatient fans and those mean writers who used to be at the Buffalo news.

So pegula needs to read a book that somehow tells him that successful people hire the best manager money can buy, provide resources, and get out of the way.

 

[truthbluth]

So pegula needs to read a book that somehow tells him that successful people hire the best manager money can buy, provide resources, and get out of the way.

No argument on the general approach. But hiring expensive GMs is not a recipe for success.
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