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Kevyn Adams GM thread

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HogtownSabresfan said:
You can pretend you are a Buffalo News reporter and pick bits and pieces to make an argument or look at the entirety of his work and it was good last year. And sorry it was very good in Buffalo on very bad teams with the caveat being his injury issues. His injury issues were always the reason to be scared of a long-term deal. The guy was always broken in Buffalo. Or very often
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I was talking about the conversation that happened here about Ullmark during the early part of last season.

When he was initially benched for Swayman, plenty of Sabres fans were happy that the Sabres did not give the 6x6 deal he reportedly wanted from Buffalo before he hit the market.
 
HogtownSabresfan said:
Absolute nonsense. Ullmark's numbers were better all along the way with his major problem injuries. If he would only sign for 6 x $6 M I guess that's a different discussion. I find it hard to believe one team gave him $20 M but he wanted $36 M from Sabres. That seems like BS. But he probably wanted more term and money than he took from Bruins and Sabres should have given it to him
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Why do you find it hard to believe he wanted a lot more from Buffalo?

The team prior to last season looked like it was going to be a dumpster fire. Most people pegged them to finish in the bottom 3 again after finishing dead last the year prior. They had question marks on defense, a captain who openly wanted to be traded, and 2 other players who also wanted out. They also had a notably toxic culture that had only just started to be fixed.

Put yourself in his shoes. Would you accept a similar deal to stay with what looked like it was going to be a terrible team for the next few years? Or would you take less to go to a team that's only missed the playoffs twice in the last 15 years? If you're saying you'd take only a little more money to stay in Buffalo I think you're lying to yourself. I'd have been asking for considerably more if I were him also.
 
WhereAreTheCookies said:
Why do you find it hard to believe he wanted a lot more from Buffalo?

The team prior to last season looked like it was going to be a dumpster fire. Most people pegged them to finish in the bottom 3 again after finishing dead last the year prior. They had question marks on defense, a captain who openly wanted to be traded, and 2 other players who also wanted out. They also had a notably toxic culture that had only just started to be fixed.

Put yourself in his shoes. Would you accept a similar deal to stay with what looked like it was going to be a terrible team for the next few years? Or would you take less to go to a team that's only missed the playoffs twice in the last 15 years? If you're saying you'd take only a little more money to stay in Buffalo I think you're lying to yourself. I'd have been asking for considerably more if I were him also.
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A lot more, yes. $16 M more. That's almost double.
 
TehDoak said:
Ok. So, it was Calgary who leaked the names of their own players hours before the Eichel deal was complete and Eichel was scheduled to do an tell all interview?

That was 100% Adams trying (poorly) to leverage Vegas by creating urgency. He likely burned a bridge in Calgary by doing so. No other scenario makes any sense for those specific names to get out when they did when specifics on any potential Eichel deal were vague.
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There is a 3rd party who could have, and in my opinion likely DID, leaked the names. A 3rd party who is/was VERY invested in Eichel getting the hell out of Buffalo: Eichel's agent.
 
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Zman5778 said:
There is a 3rd party who could have, and in my opinion likely DID, leaked the names. A 3rd party who is/was VERY invested in Eichel getting the hell out of Buffalo: Eichel's agent.
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Funny that Tkachuk eventually did get traded for a C.
 
Zman5778 said:
Johnson is going to be another few weeks -- his season isn't near done.

Livingstone would be a coup, I don't expect him to come here.
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If they could get Sam Malinski, it'd be a nice get too. Or Grigori Dronov who's season with Metallurg Magnitogorsk is up but he's still in the Gragarin Cup playoffs.
 
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BloFan4Life said:
Same cliques as normal. The guy contradicts himself constantly. I have always been an Adams supporter, but I'm officially worried he isn't adapting and is just gonna stick to his conservative crap.
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I am curious as to some of the contractions that you see him making constantly.
 
Jim Bob said:
I am curious as to some of the contractions that you see him making constantly.
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He talks about salary cap being an issue down the road, and then talks about having a constant flow of young prospects. So we kept all our picks over these last couple of years so hopefully go after a big fish, and now it looks like the plan is just to constantly rotate these young guys in and we will never be close to a salary cap. Will continue to be a floor team.

Don't like his response about hitting.
 
BloFan4Life said:
He talks about salary cap being an issue down the road, and then talks about having a constant flow of young prospects. So we kept all our picks over these last couple of years so hopefully go after a big fish, and now it looks like the plan is just to constantly rotate these young guys in and we will never be close to a salary cap. Will continue to be a floor team.

Don't like his response about hitting.
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The cap being an issue down the road will happen if they continue to develop players into guys that will need to get paid to stick around like Thompson, Cozens, and then Dahlin, Power, Quinn, Peterka, etc.

He has constantly stressed that their plan is to draft, develop, and retain. If you do the first two well, then the cap can be a challenge when trying to retain players. The cap will not be an issue over the short term. But, if things go according to Adams's plan, then the cap will be an issue down the road.

I may disagree with how concerned he seems to be about the cap down the road. But, I do not believe he is being inconsistent or see any sort of contradictions.

And how has he been putting out contradictions about hitting? Or, is it just that he gives the same answers and you just don't like it?
 
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BloFan4Life said:
He talks about salary cap being an issue down the road, and then talks about having a constant flow of young prospects. So we kept all our picks over these last couple of years so hopefully go after a big fish, and now it looks like the plan is just to constantly rotate these young guys in and we will never be close to a salary cap. Will continue to be a floor team.

Don't like his response about hitting.
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I didn't listen to the interview, but have to think that the despairing reaction can't be the right takeaway.

We may be close to the cap floor next year because we'll be moving out big cap hits for Okposo, Olofsson, and Bishop in favor of Tage and Cozens. Any contract for Dahlin and Power won't kick in until the following year. There are still more core pieces to be secured. Even a three-year plan has the team well above the floor by 24-25.

My three-year goal would be for them to field a highly competitive team at about $8-10M below the cap. That way, when the stars align and it looks like you might be able to make a run, you have flexibility and resources available to fill holes at the trade deadline and push.

And yes, in the future, it means that some very good players who've earned a big contract will have to be moved in favor of younger players on ELC. That's just impossible to avoid.
 
BloFan4Life said:
He talks about salary cap being an issue down the road, and then talks about having a constant flow of young prospects. So we kept all our picks over these last couple of years so hopefully go after a big fish, and now it looks like the plan is just to constantly rotate these young guys in and we will never be close to a salary cap. Will continue to be a floor team.

Don't like his response about hitting.
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That's definitely not what he said.

He did say it's important to have a feeding system of ELCs (I agree).

He didn't say or insinuate anything about remaining at the cap floor. That's your addition.
 
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I loved his response to hitting. By dominating possession the numbers will be skewed negatively with hits and to focus on hitting at appropriate times. The playoffs are full of teams near the bottom of hits. This organization is dialed in. They are even evaluating faceoff % and how often the wingers won the puck when it becomes a battle.

If you are worried about too much cap space, go ahead and add in 9 for skinner, 9 for Dahlin, 7 for Cozens, 7 for Thompson, 5 for Cobra, 8 for power, 6 for Quinn, and 6 for JJ, maybe 5 for mitts, 8m for levi if he becomes what we hope. That is 70m. We should be worried about cap space down the road If Granato keeps working his magic.
 
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Is the interview archived anywhere? Jeremy posted an Audacy link but we can’t get that app up here in Canada lol
 
This is as close as we’ll essentially get to Adams to saying “yes we are going to be making moves this summer”

He literally said “this off-season we’re gonna be looking to round things out with our roster than we have been the last couple years.” how someone took that as we are going to be cheap and not make moves is insane lol
 
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