Kevyn Adams GM thread

[newfiejesus]

Palmettos are the answer.

 

[dire wolf]

Yeah, but Adams also bridged Reinhart too. Reinhart was up for a new deal when Adams took over as GM and he was open about wanting his long term contract. At that point he still wanted to sign here long term. Adam’s chose to give him a 1yr deal.

My memory is hazy about that. I thought he could only sign him for 1 year at that point, but you're probably right.

You are missing the Mitts deal which was 100 percent his doing.
He made the forward C spine worse which was already not good enough.
He bet on Cozens because he can't revert from plans he laid out (and also because he paid him 7 mil).
He failed big time 2 seasons in a row.
He neither managed to fill the 2C position nor get the much needed top4 savvy steady vet RD (just another inexperienced puck moving LD)
He continually forced inexperienced players to fill important roles and failed multiple times.

I didn't include all of his deals. I'm not disagreeing with you. There is plenty to criticize.

 

[Dirty Dog]

He was asked for media availability after the team hid the day after the Colorado game. It wasn’t his call to do it. And he clearly didn’t think he had anything to answer for. Which is a giant new problem.

No I get that. I mean his words were so uncalculated you can only assume he is arrogant, delusional, and/or dumb

 

[Dahlicious]

The fact that Sportsnet and NHL Network have both mocked the palm tree comments makes me wonder if the bad PR pushes Pegula over the edge and can the guy.

Probably not, but I get the sense he'd be pretty embarrassed by this.

 

[SharkInABoloTie]

He implied he told lindy to hire whoever he wanted, and lindy wanted continuity

Don't believe that for a second. Absolute bullshit. Has a team ever played like they want their GM fired? Because that's what it looks like out there.

 

[Fjordsen]

Don't believe that for a second. Absolute bullshit. Has a team ever played like they want their GM fired? Because that's what it looks like out there.

I don't believe in this nonsense either, Ruff usually brings some people with him, he himself said that he has no idea who Appert is.

 

[jc17]

Don't believe that for a second. Absolute bullshit. Has a team ever played like they want their GM fired? Because that's what it looks like out there.

That makes no sense. He has defended that group of guys publicly even if everyone knows some have played poorly.

Thinking they're playing poorly to get him fired is ludicrous lol

 

[jd1970]

That "war" ended before it began.

 

[EichHart]

You think Kevyn Adams plan, as the first time GM of a team on a decade losing streak…was to spend the least amount of money in the NHL for three years? Twice with artificial contracts to reach the floor?

Your opinion on this is that Pegula hires a man to come in and gut the front office of contracts that couldn’t add up to one second line winger…but he passively sat back and watched his GM spend the least amount required by the league for YEARS? That, the one year they were close his deadline moves were Greenway and Stillman?

This is an actual position you are still taking? That there is no internal cap? From the team that said it was time to win, bought out Jeff Skinner, and then refused to spend the cap savings while artificially deflating their own cap for six years? Six years where they literally can’t spent all their cap space…but saved Pegula MILLIONS in actual cash?

This gimmick is as old as it is embarrassing

Yeah there is no internal cap. Pegula isn't limiting spending. It's a hill I'll die on. Dudes worth 7 billion and spends over the cap on a Bills team that has a substantially higher payroll. It doesn't make sense to me. 5-10 million to Pegula is like $1-200 to us. Its peanuts to him. This is squarely on Adams. I agree with this post a few months back.

20-21: Sabres had ~$5M in retained salary.

21-22: Sold the old core, rebuild part 3, would make no sense to be at the cap.

22-23: Still rebuilding, youngest team in the league.

23-24: This is where you can start to make an argument that more should've been done. (Ran it back and did not acquire a top 6 forward after Quinn went down)

24-25: Adams tried to acquire Necas or Ehlers and neither of them wanted to sign an extension which would eat up that cap space.

I'll agree with the idea that Pegula is cheap if the Sabres aren't at the cap starting next season as the next wave of ELCs are due.

Edit: To be clear in 20-21, Sabres retained about half on Hall and Staal when they were traded. So at the start of the year the Sabres did not have $8M in cap space

 

[GellMann]

All of the problems that Kevyn builds into mountains in his head, that you get a glimpse of in his stupid hypotheticals (well had i finished that trade you guys would have said i sold the farm!! (f***ing everyone wants you to sell the farm kevyn holy shit)) would have trivially vanished if he had built a team capable of finishing in the top 16 one single time in the last five years.

It's crazy how much of this isn't even real. Look at the roster. It's always achingly obvious what it needs and when it needs it. Complete 80% of that ideal wishlist each offseason and congrats, your team is going to be, at the very least, decent. He hasn't done that once and scoffs at the suggestion every time it's ever brought up.

 

[jd1970]

Is this like Tom Donahoe fighting fans in the parking lot?

 

[MarkusKetterer]

EDIT: wrong thread

 

[SharkInABoloTie]

That makes no sense. He has defended that group of guys publicly even if everyone knows some have played poorly.

Thinking they're playing poorly to get him fired is ludicrous lol

I know it's the internet, but I thought it was apparent that it wasn't a serious claim.

 

[Ace]

Yeah there is no internal cap. Pegula isn't limiting spending. It's a hill I'll die on. Dudes worth 7 billion and spends over the cap on a Bills team that has a substantially higher payroll. It doesn't make sense to me. 5-10 million to Pegula is like $1-200 to us. Its peanuts to him. This is squarely on Adams. I agree with this post a few months back.

20-21: Sabres had ~$5M in retained salary.

21-22: Sold the old core, rebuild part 3, would make no sense to be at the cap.

22-23: Still rebuilding, youngest team in the league.

23-24: This is where you can start to make an argument that more should've been done. (Ran it back and did not acquire a top 6 forward after Quinn went down)

24-25: Adams tried to acquire Necas or Ehlers and neither of them wanted to sign an extension which would eat up that cap space.

I'll agree with the idea that Pegula is cheap if the Sabres aren't at the cap starting next season as the next wave of ELCs are due.

Edit: To be clear in 20-21, Sabres retained about half on Hall and Staal when they were traded. So at the start of the year the Sabres did not have $8M in cap space

I’ll send someone to collect your remains from the hill.

Because a team doesn’t spend the least allowed year after year without that being the f***ing plan. We are years past this being an argument, enjoy the hill.

 

[EichHart]

I’ll send someone to collect your remains from the hill.

Because a team doesn’t spend the least allowed year after year without that being the f***ing plan. We are years past this being an argument, enjoy the hill.

Pegula has no cap for either team. Blame the GM.

 

[Fjordsen]

Pegula has no cap for either team. Blame the GM.

Actually, you may both be right, but Adams himself said he has all the resources. He's just a pompous idiot.

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

 

[jd1970]

Come on KevYn, spite trade one these guys

 

[Fjordsen]

#FireAdams #PalmTrees #Taxes

 

[Sabre Dance]

I think Adams gets fired and Lindy moves up to management. My guess.

 

[Sabre Dance]

Pegula has no cap for either team. Blame the GM.

Pegula doesn’t know what he’s doing but I will never call him a bad owner. What I ask of ownership is pretty simple, sign your best players. Pegula has pretty much signed everyone. Not many contract disputes under Pegula.

 

[Fjordsen]

I think Adams gets fired and Lindy moves up to management. My guess.

Is Lindy interested? And what position. Trotz looks like a terrible GM so far, although he was a good coach.

 

[GellMann]

We can't add a good player to this team unless it makes sense and doesn't jeopardize a future that we have planned to be run by the completely overwhelmed players currently contributing to a bad team, even though this is the future team that we purposefully avoided adding players to past teams to prepare for

You know Kevyn, if you somehow accidentally found yourself with too many good hockey players and your team got too good and thus somehow jeopardized its future, i bet you could figure something out

 

[Fjordsen]

FIRE THIS IDIOT

 

[toddkaz]

Is Lindy interested? And what position. Trotz looks like a terrible GM so far, although he was a good coach.

Let Karmanos take over for the rest of the season then do a serious search in the summer.