Player Discussion Kevin Shattenkirk

[Edge]

I can 100% see AV putting him with Staal.

McD-Smith
Staal-Shatty
Skjei-Holden

Could easily be the pairs for a stretch.

Assuming Holden is still here, I have it stuck in my head that AV goes:
McD-Holden
Staal-Shatty
Skjei-Smith

If Holden is moved:
McD-Smith
Staal-Shatty
Skjei-DeAngelo

 

[Igor Shestyorkin]

He is a bum, and we should buy him out. He's been a Ranger for almost 2 weeks now, and still hasn't even gotten a point yet!

What a wasted contract space!

 

[DanielBrassard]

Putting him with Staal would be very dumb IMO. I don't think his skillset would mesh with Staal's at all.

 

[Fugazy]

Putting him with Staal would be very dumb IMO. I don't think his skillset would mesh with Staal's at all.

Unfortunately, no one would really mesh well with Staal. They would get dragged down by him.

 

[Thirty One]

Unfortunately, no one would really mesh well with Staal. They would get dragged down by him.

Yeah, he has that affect on people.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Unfortunately, no one would really mesh well with Staal. They would get dragged down by him.

Good point

 

[RangerLifer]

When he signed I could swear I read he was making 6 mil for 4 years. It's 26 mil for four years????

 

[Levitate]

When he signed I could swear I read he was making 6 mil for 4 years. It's 26 mil for four years????

You thought Shattenkirk would sign for $1.5 mill per year?

 

[NickyFotiu]

You thought Shattenkirk would sign for $1.5 mill per year?

I assume he is kidding but some people might even complain at 1.5 mill.

 

[Ori]

He produce a lot so he is def. worth that contract and he took a discount to get here, and he said in the interview he always had an interest to play here and that`s great! He will probably play with Ryan Mc. since he can cover him in some situations since Kevin main weakness is defense.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

If Klein didn't retire, we'd have 3 Kevins on our team

 

[KOVALEV022473]

I assume he is kidding but some people might even complain at 1.5 mill.

When I began to read this thread, I assumed I stepped in to The Shattenkirk Sarcasm Thread, or this place is Bizarro a World.

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

How long before the fanbase turns on him?

When Corsica.com tells them to

 

[Kaapo Cabana]

The "worse case scenario" pairings of

McD - Holden
Staal - Shatty
Skjei - Smith

or

McD - Smith
Staal - Holden
Skjei - Shatt

are still miles better than what we had last year. Doesn't mean I condone these atrocities, but we really made some great improvements to our D

 

[Rangerfan4life90]

The "worse case scenario" pairings of

McD - Holden
Staal - Shatty
Skjei - Smith

or

McD - Smith
Staal - Holden
Skjei - Shatt

are still miles better than what we had last year. Doesn't mean I condone these atrocities, but we really made some great improvements to our D

Staal-Holden.....

 

[bootscraper]

I figured I should mention this but my cousin works with Shattenkirk's brother in the city. He said that part of the deal of him coming to NY was pairing with McDonagh. So I would be shocked if he wasn't on the top line.

 

[Raspewtin]

The "worse case scenario" pairings of

McD - Holden
Staal - Shatty
Skjei - Smith

or

McD - Smith
Staal - Holden
Skjei - Shatt

are still miles better than what we had last year. Doesn't mean I condone these atrocities, but we really made some great improvements to our D

A team that's built to win as a team like the Rangers can't afford to make these "little" personnel missteps, is the problem.

Giving Staal top 4 minutes can very well be the difference between a playoff series win and loss.

Just a thought.

 

[Igor Shestyorkin]

A team that's built to win as a team like the Rangers can't afford to make these "little" personnel missteps, is the problem.

Giving Staal top 4 minutes can very well be the difference between a playoff series win and loss.

Just a thought.

And not giving Skjei(or Shatty) top 4 minutes would be a catastrophically stupid move.

 

[Inferno]

And not giving Skjei(or Shatty) top 4 minutes would be a catastrophically stupid move.

Our coach "lost" our best defensive pair in a game.

Our coach put Tanner Glass out there to protect a lead.

Our coach consistently put marc staal out there to close out close games...we blew how many late game leads? 3?

What on earth makes you think that something other than the catastrophically stupid decision will be made?

 

[Levitate]

I figured I should mention this but my cousin works with Shattenkirk's brother in the city. He said that part of the deal of him coming to NY was pairing with McDonagh. So I would be shocked if he wasn't on the top line.

I mean you can't really guarantee something like that in a contract but judging from what we heard of Shattenkirk in St Louis (wanting a chance at a bigger role) and what we heard Gorton say about signing him, I'm pretty sure he's going to get that chance.

I also think if the coaches play Staal over Skjei or push Shattenkirk down the depth chart there's going to be some rebuke from the front office. I can see Staal getting a lot of PK minutes but otherwise I think the mindset is to move away from him as a guy the team leans on for even strength minutes.

 

[Levitate]

Our coach "lost" our best defensive pair in a game.

Our coach put Tanner Glass out there to protect a lead.

Our coach consistently put marc staal out there to close out close games...we blew how many late game leads? 3?

What on earth makes you think that something other than the catastrophically stupid decision will be made?

The fact that it was discussed after the season was over and it was said they would rely on those guys less, and that Gorton explicitly said that Shattenkirk is here to play top 4 minutes.

I mean I"m purely speculating but reading between the lines it feels like the team and AV knows that he ****ed up in the playoffs with the defensive deployment and it feels like there's a bit of an implied threat looming in the air when it comes to running the defense this year.

 

[Irishguy42]

I think Gorton has taken off the kiddie gloves, lit them on fire, and thrown them in the trash.

Shattenkirk won't be treated like Yandle. Big difference between their situations.

He'll be in the Top 4.

 

[Levitate]

I think Gorton has taken off the kiddie gloves, lit them on fire, and thrown them in the trash.

Shattenkirk won't be treated like Yandle. Big difference between their situations.

He'll be in the Top 4.

Yandle wasn't even treated that badly, it's just that he should have probably been relied upon more heavily than he was. He still had more ES minutes than Staal and got a significant chunk of PP time, you could just argue that the difference in ES minutes between him and Staal should have been bigger.

But Shattenkirk is far and away the best RD the Rangers have now and is literally one of the best if not the best PP QB in the league. It's a bit harder to bury the guy and make up excuses for it with that staring you in the face.

 

[NickyFotiu]

I figured I should mention this but my cousin works with Shattenkirk's brother in the city. He said that part of the deal of him coming to NY was pairing with McDonagh. So I would be shocked if he wasn't on the top line.

I would not expect GM to tell Shatty that he will be McD's partner as part of his deal but he is our best RH dman so he will be given every chance to play on our #1 pairing.

 

[Inferno]

The fact that it was discussed after the season was over and it was said they would rely on those guys less, and that Gorton explicitly said that Shattenkirk is here to play top 4 minutes.

I mean I"m purely speculating but reading between the lines it feels like the team and AV knows that he ****ed up in the playoffs with the defensive deployment and it feels like there's a bit of an implied threat looming in the air when it comes to running the defense this year.

Yes I recall AV talking about limiting Dan Boyles minutes/games played, and trying to keep Dan Girardi fresh....

Remind me how that one worked out?