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Value of: Kevin Korchinski

TheBeard said:
The seth jones/Fleury acquisitions in a foolish attempt to give Kane one more kick at it set the franchise back years.
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It was to save Bowmans job. It didnt set them back at all they were already heading for a rebuild they just got pushed into in quicker thank god. Just pretend like they took Spencer Knight with the 6th pick in 2022.
 
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majormajor said:
It will be incredible if the Hawks end up with Levshunov and Misa instead of Demidov and Schaefer (two clearly better players) because of drafting for need - first we need a D, and then the next year oops we need a F.
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The hawks needed forwards as much as defenseman last year.

What happens if they dont get 1st overall. Then is it a smart move? Levshunov and Misa/Hagens/Martone/Frondell

We have no idea whos a better player at this point. Hell Boisvert might end up better then Demidov.
 
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Toews2Bickell said:
little dramatic but yes they should've went teardown earlier but Bowman wanted to save his job
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I think there were a lot of factors with that being one. The others being one last kick for Kane and Toews (I imagine they expected he'd be healthy and well rested having missed the previous year) not to mention I personally believe they needed distractions from the SA lawsuit filed that summer.

The biggest "huh" was extending Seth Jones for max term.
 
SimpleJack said:
If we're talking big-picture I'd take Lev and Vlasic over Korch easily, and probably Rinzel too. Then there's guys that are close too like Del Mastro, Kaiser, Allan. If they do indeed land Schaefer added on top of all of that...IMO it would be foolish to not consider moving Korch at that point for a young forward with similar value. I think you're mistaking defenseman for forwards. The Hawks are loaded with young promising Dman(even without Korchinski in the picture), so the "absolute wreck in need of talent in the worst way, particulary on defense" comment doesn't really make sense. Had you said "forward", then maybe I'd agree.
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Excluding Vlasic who's an established NHLer most likely 2, if you're lucky maybe 3 or 4 of those guys are going to actually pan out. If more do then you deal from a position of strength -- it's not like good NHL-proven young defenders are any less valuable.

Only real reasons to move on from Korchinski are:
1) There's a better prospect a team wants to move on from because of contract issues (Drysdale for Gauthier, Yager for McGroarty).
or
2) The Hawks think he won't be an NHLer and want to get out before other teams realize that as well. If that's the case, they're likely getting back less for him than you'd expect (Jiricek).

Don't count your chickens before they hatch, and there always needs to be a reason for both teams in a prospect swap.
 
TheBeard said:
He'd have the value some of you think he has.
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do you have any comps for 20 year old defenseman drafted in the top 10 that got traded? The right handed ones got some good packages back.

Would you say someone like Philip Broberg is valuable? He was playing in the AHL last year at 22. 8th overall left handed defenseman.
 
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TheBeard said:
What I love about your rebuild is it’s in year like 5 and out of the top six scorers only one is under 28 (would have been 6 of 7 if they didn’t trade Seth Jones).
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Hawks Defense is pretty stacked on a future basis

Name (YOB)

Crevier (01)
Vlasic (01)
Kaiser (02)
Del Mastro (03)
Allan (03)
Rinzel (04)
Korchinski (04)
Levshunov (05)

That's a lot 23 and Unders to be excited for.
 
BHawk21 said:
do you have any comps for 20 year old defenseman drafted in the top 10 that got traded? The right handed ones got some good packages back.

Would you say someone like Philip Broberg is valuable? He was playing in the AHL last year at 22. 8th overall left handed defenseman.
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it would need to be a player for player swap, there is no real reason to get a pick back that could be 3 years down the road development wise...a team with a surplus of forwards that needs defense and ideally the player is an equivalent prospect to Korchinski
 
qcal1427 said:
Excluding Vlasic who's an established NHLer most likely 2, if you're lucky maybe 3 or 4 of those guys are going to actually pan out. If more do then you deal from a position of strength -- it's not like good NHL-proven young defenders are any less valuable.

Only real reasons to move on from Korchinski are:
1) There's a better prospect a team wants to move on from because of contract issues (Drysdale for Gauthier, Yager for McGroarty).
or
2) The Hawks think he won't be an NHLer and want to get out before other teams realize that as well. If that's the case, they're likely getting back less for him than you'd expect (Jiricek).

Don't count your chickens before they hatch, and there always needs to be a reason for both teams in a prospect swap.
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I think thats why this thread exsists because hawks fans believe Vlasic Levshunov Rinzel Korchinski Kaiser Allan and Del Mastro are all NHL defenseman right now. Its a matter of how good of an NHL will Levshunov Rinzel and Korchinski will be.

It would be dealing from a position of strength right now. We cant even play all these guys night to night.
 
Toews2Bickell said:
it would need to be a player for player swap, there is no real reason to get a pick back that could be 3 years down the road development wise...a team with a surplus of forwards that needs defense and ideally the player is an equivalent prospect to Korchinski
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I know that Im responding to the sharks troll about him knowing the value of Korchinski but blackhawks fans dont know.
 
qcal1427 said:
Excluding Vlasic who's an established NHLer most likely 2, if you're lucky maybe 3 or 4 of those guys are going to actually pan out. If more do then you deal from a position of strength -- it's not like good NHL-proven young defenders are any less valuable.

Only real reasons to move on from Korchinski are:
1) There's a better prospect a team wants to move on from because of contract issues (Drysdale for Gauthier, Yager for McGroarty).
or
2) The Hawks think he won't be an NHLer and want to get out before other teams realize that as well. If that's the case, they're likely getting back less for him than you'd expect (Jiricek).

Don't count your chickens before they hatch, and there always needs to be a reason for both teams in a prospect swap.
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personally I think the range of outcomes with Korchinski is wide and he would make the most sense to address a need for another top 6 forward prospect assuming the prospect is of comparable status, this is the summer to consider it imo, even more so if they land Schaefer because then their top 4 would be set and Korchinski in a 3rd pair role is not of much use when they can use Del Maestro and Kaiser for that role
 
BHawk21 said:
I think thats why this thread exsists because hawks fans believe Vlasic Levshunov Rinzel Korchinski Kaiser Allan and Del Mastro are all NHL defenseman right now. Its a matter of how good of an NHL will Levshunov Rinzel and Korchinski will be.

It would be dealing from a position of strength right now. We cant even play all these guys night to night.
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I guess color me skeptical on all of them being NHL defenseman in the future, let alone right now. Playing in the NHL != NHL defenseman ...

Toews2Bickell said:
personally I think the range of outcomes with Korchinski is wide and he would make the most sense to address a need for another top 6 forward prospect assuming the prospect is of comparable status, this is the summer to consider it imo, even more so if they land Schaefer because then their top 4 would be set and Korchinski in a 3rd pair role is not of much use when they can use Del Maestro and Kaiser for that role
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Show me the team that wants to move on from a forward prospect of comparable status and wants to get back a defensive prospect in return
 
qcal1427 said:
I guess color me skeptical on all of them being NHL defenseman in the future, let alone right now. Playing in the NHL != NHL defenseman ...


Show me the team that wants to move on from a forward prospect of comparable status and wants to get back a defensive prospect in return
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Yes, its tough if you dont watch these players play.
 
qcal1427 said:
I guess color me skeptical on all of them being NHL defenseman in the future, let alone right now. Playing in the NHL != NHL defenseman ...


Show me the team that wants to move on from a forward prospect of comparable status and wants to get back a defensive prospect in return
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thats what this thread is about...who the teams could potentially be
 
Korchinski isn't even old enough to drink

Why would Hawks be looking to trade him? Even if we draft Schaefer we can still in future go with

Vlasic-Levshunov
Schaefer-Rinzel
Korchinski-Del Mastro

As our potential D in 26-27 and beyond

Use Kaiser and Allan as potential trade chips
 
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