Confirmed with Link: Kevin Hayes to Pens

[Sideline]

Are we eating half or all the contract? Everyone keeps saying 3.5 but Philly took half in the trade to St. Louis.

3.5 is half of the original 7MM Philly signed him to. Pittsburgh is not getting additional retention from St. Louis.

 

[Kristopher Letang]

Pens get a 2nd next year. Dubas is adding picks and I still think smith will be gone for a third. Malkin has to be moving to wing is my guess. Hayes Malkin and Rakell.

Lmao Geno on the worst day, with COVID, AIDS and diarrhea is a better 2C.

 

[Andy99]

If this is the plan to move Malkin to wing, I don’t get it…he’s just as slow as Geno and actually worse…someone enlighten me… mean if he’s taking Eller’s place, fine…better have a trade for Eller…otherwise yuck

 

[vodeni]

Pono should get a jersey. Poulins trash.

We don't know that, you can't possibly now that...one game he played was the best 4th line we had all season long, I'll believe you if I see him sucks 10-15 games..

 

[ncm7772]

People saying it’s “only” $3.5M. Yeah, it’s $3.5M for an old, bland, not physical, not fast player.

So much for getting younger and faster. A second round pick is ok, I suppose.

 

[Coastal Kev]

Lmao Geno on the worst day, with COVID, AIDS and diarrhea is a better 2C.

Would it be the common diarrhea? That's important when forecasting.

 

[OtherThingsILike]

Looks like those of you who wanted to take on contracts for picks got their wish.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Good move. Don't care if he sucks, and he does, this is what bad teams should be doing. Kind of a head-scratcher as to why St. Louis did it tbh, they're also bad.

 

[ChaosAgent]

Move eller so ponomarev isn’t blocked.

I'm ok with the Guentzel trade, but the main assets to me were the 2nd and the Finnish guy. Pono is not a prospect worthy of making room for.

 

[Andy99]

Looks like those of you who wanted to take on contracts for picks got their wish.

Sure, I mean it’s better than doing nothing if you’ve given up on the season and rebuilding like Chicago did… as I’ve said, all part of the plan to be extremely old and get a top 5 pick next season lol

 

[Jaded-Fan]

If it feels like a move rebuilding teams do, it is because this is a rebuilding team.

Maybe rebuilding with a small r.

But, come to reality as to what this team is. And is not.

 

[eXile3]

It feels like a cap dump which is a rebuilding move but Sully will still play the hell out of him. I wish we would just pick a direction.

 

[Empoleon8771]

People complaining about "we're bringing in an old player" when the point of the deal was obviously to get another high draft pick for taking a bad deal.

This team is rebuilding, even if it's a soft "rebuild". Dubas pretty much explicitly said so. Better come to terms with that now.

It feels like a cap dump which is a rebuilding move but Sully will still play the hell out of him. I wish we would just pick a direction.

This deal is literally them picking a direction.

 

[Turin]

People complaining about "we're bringing in an old player" when the point of the deal was obviously to get another high draft pick for taking a bad deal.

This team is rebuilding, even if it's a soft "rebuild". Dubas pretty much explicitly said so. Better come to terms with that now.



This deal is literally them picking a direction.

Yea.. look at the Caps. That’s our future now. They wanted to make the playoffs if possible but mostly stockpile assets the last couple years. That’s where we are now. And now look at the Caps, they actually have assets to do stuff again.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

The upside is that Hayes might actually help the Pens add more offense from the 3rd line.

 

[Bishop7979]

Pens get a 2nd next year. Dubas is adding picks and I still think smith will be gone for a third. Malkin has to be moving to wing is my guess. Hayes Malkin and Rakell.

So move blunting away from Geno, keep rackell away from sid, and put a guy who didn't crack 30pts as second line center.... These all sound like Sullivan decisions .... Checks out.

If they are serious and want the most production from each line but don't add/sub anything else:

Doc, sid, rak
Bunt, Geno, rust
Puusty Hayes smith
Poulin/pool-party eller acari

 

[AuroraBorealis]

All Hayes would do for the team if he scores well (and doesn't get traded again) is probably get them knocked out to Carolina or NYR in R1.
If he sucks, the Pens draft higher in 2025.
What is there to fear? Did you actually believe that there was a shred of a chance of contending?

 

[The Great Mighty Poo]

The upside is that Hayes might actually help the Pens add more offense from the 3rd line.

Cant do any wose then Jansen Harkins just did ....WOOF.

 

[vodeni]

People complaining about "we're bringing in an old player" when the point of the deal was obviously to get another high draft pick for taking a bad deal.

This team is rebuilding, even if it's a soft "rebuild". Dubas pretty much explicitly said so. Better come to terms with that now.



This deal is literally them picking a direction.

if this is the direction why bother giving Sid, geno, letang contracts and why not trade them, thats how you collect assests (Jake trade for that matter was OK in theory) not by getting one second and still tease us with Sid and others...I don't understand, just blow everything up for some real assets and prospects, all you do with these medicre assts picking is making misery long long term.

 

[MrBurghundy]

The upside is that Hayes might actually help the Pens add more offense from the 3rd line.

Or hopefully becomes an asset we can move again later.

 

[vodeni]

All Hayes would do for the team if he scores well (and doesn't get traded again) is probably get them knocked out to Carolina or NYR in R1.
If he sucks, the Pens draft higher in 2025.
What is there to fear? Did you actually believe that there was a shred of a chance of contending?

I do hope making playoffs every year, with half dead Malkin, Sid and Geno on decent contracts you should be able to make playoffs every year...

 

[AuroraBorealis]

if this is the direction why bother giving Sid, geno, letang contracts and why not trade them, thats how you collect assests (Jake trade for that matter was OK in theory) not by getting one second and still tease us with Sid and others...I don't understand, just blow everything up for some real assets and prospects, all you do with these medicre assts picking is making misery long long term.

Because Dubas has to weigh the demands from ownership to keep trying while at the same time knowing the right thing to do here is rebuild.
So he sneaks in deals like this.
Of course blowing it up is the right move, but FSG would block that.

 

[MeinerEiner]

Or hopefully becomes an asset we can move again later.

That would be the best outcome. Trade him at some point for like a 3rd and you got a 2nd&3rd for nothing

 

[JRS91]

I'm not sure how anyone could be complaining about this trade.

He's not making an absurd amount of money, $3.5M for 2 years. The best case scenario is he has a season like he did in 2022-2023 and we trade him for more draft capital or keep him for another season as our third line center.

We get a free 2nd round pick for next season and we strengthen our depth at center. Ponomarev is 22, it's not like he's a 26 year old being blocked from coming up and contributing. This is a good move. This is something Yzerman would do and I'm all for it. Low risk, high reward.

 

[vodeni]

Because Dubas has to weigh the demands from ownership to keep trying while at the same time knowing the right thing to do here is rebuild.
So he sneaks in deals like this.
Of course blowing it up is the right move, but FSG would block that.

I understand that but that never works in any facets of life, thats something that would have worked 2018, 2019, now this will be just one sad story for a while