Value of: Keller
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Hockeyholic
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Wouldn't be a nice line because one of those players would be headed the other way.
Nowotny
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Situation changed.Arizona already drafted plenty of young players and will have four picks in first 2 rounds of 2024 draft.They don't need more picks.They need to develop players they already have.So unless you are proposing trade of equally talented players with comparable contracts it makes absolutely no sense.
Arizona doesn't need more futures.
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Literally one of the most valuable players in the league with his contract. Arizona doesn't need futures.
There's no trade that really makes sense that I can think of
Literally one of the most valuable players in the league with his contract. Arizona doesn't need futures.
There's no trade that really makes sense that I can think of
Literally one of the most valuable players in the league with his contract. Arizona doesn't need futures.
There's no trade that really makes sense that I can think of
There's no trade that really makes sense that I can think of
Literally one of the most valuable players in the league with his contract. Arizona doesn't need futures.
There's no trade that really makes sense that I can think of
Literally one of the most valuable players in the league with his contract. Arizona doesn't need futures.
There's no trade that really makes sense that I can think of
What about looking at it the other way:
What if Keller decides he's tired of playing for a team that lacks a real stadium and franchise structure and wants out? If that happens, what kind of package would the Yotes want back?
Keller is better, younger, and signed for longer. Makes no sense for Arizona to do that trade.
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I wouldn't likely trade him for much of anything.
But his value I think would be a solid semi-proven high potential player and 2 1sts. Or a top 5 pick + 1-2 later 1sts/2nds.
But his value I think would be a solid semi-proven high potential player and 2 1sts. Or a top 5 pick + 1-2 later 1sts/2nds.
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The counter offers are ridiculous, but that's not the point.
The point is that Coyotes fans really don't want to trade Keller.
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Actually the point is that the Coyotes have finally a legit top line forward on a great contract and fans of other teams insist that they shouldn't and must trade him for futures.
NyQuil
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Silly, you could draft a player like Keller in the future and sign him to a great contract!
RedHawkDown
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Yotes need players,draft picks take to long to see results so Boston offers Carlo,Debrusk Lysell for Keller,if they want a goalie swap Debrusk for Ullmark or Swayman!
we should have clarity on the arena plan in the next 6 months and by all appearances on how AZ approached free agency the concerns that Keller expressed about being more competitive have been somewhat addressed and the franchise is poised hopefully to take another step forward this season.
I'm actually in the camp that AZ deal Keller as we get closer to the end of his contract. St. Louis and their 3 first round draft picks in a relatively stacked draft had my eye this year as a potential candidate but in order to appease the fanbase AZ would absolutely need a #1 prospect who is a top 10 prospect in the league along with at least one first rounder. Probably a bit more but that's the gist.
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I understand that coyotes fans don’t want him traded. But he won’t be increasingly valuable on the trade front as he ages. And as his contract terms get less and less.
If he and the coyotes are in line that he wants to be around for whatever number of years they plan on rebuilding then he won’t be traded. If he isn’t on board with the plan then he will lose value the longer he isn’t moved.
None of this is earth shattering knowledge.
The offer of 2 1sts and a 2nd and a bottom pair defenceman with top 4 upside isn’t a bad offer if the case is the former. If it’s the latter than still the counter offers are absurd. Yet, it doesn’t matter.
Within 1-2 years Keller either entrenches himself as a coyote for the majority of his career or is moved on the initiative of the team or player.
Regardless I doubt a fair offer is possible to discuss as I intended. Plenty of other wingers to post about. Enjoy the weather yotes fans.
If he and the coyotes are in line that he wants to be around for whatever number of years they plan on rebuilding then he won’t be traded. If he isn’t on board with the plan then he will lose value the longer he isn’t moved.
None of this is earth shattering knowledge.
The offer of 2 1sts and a 2nd and a bottom pair defenceman with top 4 upside isn’t a bad offer if the case is the former. If it’s the latter than still the counter offers are absurd. Yet, it doesn’t matter.
Within 1-2 years Keller either entrenches himself as a coyote for the majority of his career or is moved on the initiative of the team or player.
Regardless I doubt a fair offer is possible to discuss as I intended. Plenty of other wingers to post about. Enjoy the weather yotes fans.
There's a very good chance Keller is named Team Captain in September.
Believe me I'm in the trade Keller camp (for the right price) but I don't think he's going anywhere based on his interview today on PHNX. Sounds like he's very happy with the direction of the team and once the arena deal is finalized I think it's only going to improve for AZ.
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There’s really no such thing as standard value anymore. At least not until the cap goes up significantly.
When a team decides to move a player now, they have to help create the market (like never before) and that market (in that moment) dictates the value. Wingers are probably the most effected.
In his case he makes $7 over the next 5 years which is value because it’s a set amount and he won’t dictate where he goes, holding the contract over Arizona’s head like Debrincat just did.
If I’m Arizona, I also don’t want a deal where the picks are the biggest value. I understand I probably have to take a player from any team like Joseph as well, so I’m coming back to you and saying the following…. Detroit also didn’t have to do that. So you’re paying for them taking Joseph somewhat too.
24’ Ottawa 1st
Joseph
Järventie
Kleven
I’m pretty firm on that size if you seen how they just drafted, over Greig and Thomson, who I thought about. Really don’t have much interest in Brannstrom, because I don’t trust him not needing protection still.
I think Arizona could start a conversation with other teams and get that type of value. Some people might not think Kleven and Järventie are worth that, but guarantee you that Armstrong would see them as really nice pieces. I think it’s worth it for Ottawa for 5 years of a weapon like Keller too. Then replace Joseph with a player like Nosek.
It does suck because the Debrincat return wasn’t nearly as good but he was dictating things.
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