Keep our pick at 9 or not?

[beerme1]

Complete incompetence if we don't trade it as a piece for an established vet. That means we're keeping it I think.

 

[ShaunCarier]

The right answer seems to be to trade the pick for a veteran presence in the locker room. What do you guys think. Do they stick with that plan, package it with some players to move up? Move down for more picks? Or simply stay at 9th and make a selection?

If they do trade it, who would you target with the pick?

 

[Selanne00008]

What they will do: Stay at 9 and pick their guy

What they should do? Idk. Who is trading for the 9th pick in a crap draft? It's like a throw in to a bigger package that doesn't have a TON of value..

 

[TheMistyStranger]

Byram, Quinn, 9th overall to Seattle for Matty Beniers, G prospect Niklas Kokko, 2026 2nd round pick

Gives Seattle 8th and 9th back to back, which they can then package to move up if they so choose, plus a PMD and a guy in Quinn who has all the potential and needs to stay motivated. Buffalo gets a solid young C who is actually a C and a goalie prospect who is playing against men in Europe.

 

[ExtraLoveSauce]

Byram, Quinn, 9th overall to Seattle for Matty Beniers, G prospect Niklas Kokko, 2026 2nd round pick

Gives Seattle 8th and 9th back to back, which they can then package to move up if they so choose, plus a PMD and a guy in Quinn who has all the potential and needs to stay motivated. Buffalo gets a solid young C who is actually a C and a goalie prospect who is playing against men in Europe.

I like that trade question is does Seattle move benders? For 9th Byram and Quinn seems slightly lopsided towards Seattle in terms of value but feel that addresses both teams needs cap works out fair maybe Sabres add another prospect though but Sabres would need to find a way to get another top four dman to either play with dahlin or anchor a second pair maybe someone like brodin

 

[TheMistyStranger]

I like that trade question is does Seattle move benders? For 9th Byram and Quinn seems slightly lopsided towards Seattle in terms of value but feel that addresses both teams needs cap works out fair maybe Sabres add another prospect though but Sabres would need to find a way to get another top four dman to either play with dahlin or anchor a second pair maybe someone like brodin

Absolutely not saying this is the only deal for the Sabres offseason. Certainly need to reshape the d corps.

 

[sabremike]

This is a very poor draft. The 9oa pick would be like a late first or even a second rounder in next year's draft that's projected to be very deep. You aren't getting anything of real value for it, it really is the absolute shittiest position: Won't get a good prospect and minimal value as a trade chip.

 

[toddkaz]

I said before trade the pick but have had multiple posters tell me its rare.

That being said we need a player now not 3 years from now.

Byram + 9th should get a pretty sweet player.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

Id trade 9th for the right player but I wouldn’t trade it just to trade it. And I certainly wouldn’t trade it for a player who’s primary attribute is veteran presence.

 

[tsujimoto74]

I mean, the answer obviously depends on what we could trade it for.

 

[Selanne00008]

I said before trade the pick but have had multiple posters tell me its rare.

That being said we need a player now not 3 years from now.

Byram + 9th should get a pretty sweet player.

Trust me, we are going to need players 3 years from now.

If you're a playoff or fringe playoff team, are you trading a sweet player for the 9th selection + Byram?

I'm not.

Just playing Devil's advocate. I think we'd have to look at a team that is also bottom of the barrel, or strapped for cap room maybe? Vegas maybe? A team with multiple players due for a raise and they can't pay them all. Tampa maybe?

 

[toddkaz]

Trust me, we are going to need players 3 years from now.

If you're a playoff or fringe playoff team, are you trading a sweet player for the 9th selection + Byram?

I'm not.

Just playing Devil's advocate. I think we'd have to look at a team that is also bottom of the barrel, or strapped for cap room maybe? Vegas maybe? A team with multiple players due for a raise and they can't pay them all. Tampa maybe?

Oh wow do they all die after 2 years? Do our prospects disappear?\

Trading the 9th for an under 25 player isn't going to make a magical poof and all the prospects are gone.

How silly to think trading the 9th means we wont have players.

 

[Selanne00008]

Oh wow do they all die after 2 years? Do our prospects disappear?\

Trading the 9th for an under 25 player isn't going to make a magical poof and all the prospects are gone.

How silly to think trading the 9th means we wont have players.

Relax bro. It was a bit tongue and cheek. My point was that we SUCK at drafting, and thinking Helenius, Ostlund, Wahlberg, Levi work out is just as silly. In fact, since it's the brutal sabres we are all discussing here, the odds any of them play more than 150 NHL games is most likely slim.

Again, point is, we can't scout (don't pay for enough scouts), rely on video scouting, we never hit on anyone outside the 1st round, etc etc.

To answer your question, actually yes, the majority of them do disappear! Unless they are first round no brainers, like Power, oh wait...

Care to answer my question? Who is jumping to trade their sweet player for Byrum and the 9th pick in a shotty draft.

 

[Chainshot]

I said before trade the pick but have had multiple posters tell me its rare.

That isn't the same as an endorsement of keeping it. It's reporting how it is rare that those picks move.

That being said we need a player now not 3 years from now.

Byram + 9th should get a pretty sweet player.

 

[TageGod]

Norris and 9
Byrum and 9
Power and 9
Quinn and 9

1 of those has to return interesting value right?

Right?

is this a joke? Power +9 is the offer for a 1C or 1D

 

[Jim Bob]

Relax bro. It was a bit tongue and cheek. My point was that we SUCK at drafting, and thinking Helenius, Ostlund, Wahlberg, Levi work out is just as silly. In fact, since it's the brutal sabres we are all discussing here, the odds any of them play more than 150 NHL games is most likely slim.

Again, point is, we can't scout (don't pay for enough scouts), rely on video scouting, we never hit on anyone outside the 1st round, etc etc.

To answer your question, actually yes, the majority of them do disappear! Unless they are first round no brainers, like Power, oh wait...

Care to answer my question? Who is jumping to trade their sweet player for Byrum and the 9th pick in a shotty draft.

Peterka and Kozak are Adams draftees from the 2nd round onward that have already played NHL games.

Poltapov would be an intriguing prospect if he had come over.

Novikov, Komarov, Ratzlaff, Strbak, Wahlberg, Leenders, Osburn, Ziemer, and Kleber are all on good development paths thus far.

Plus, Adams has had 8 1st round picks in the 5 drafts he's been GM.

 

[TageGod]

I'd do 9th for Dobson (with contract) if they can simultaneously deal Byram or Power. Ideally I'd trade one of those two for Dobson.

Byram and 9 for Dobson I wouldn't even blink.

 

[Jim Bob]

Byram and 9 for Dobson I wouldn't even blink.

I wonder what the response would be if Adams made that offer.

 

[SabresFanNorthPortFL]

Florida has big decisions to be made this summer…#9 for Seth Jones…now at $7mil per.

Then.,.

I’d prefer Berniers but I highly doubt they’d trade him but the malcontent in Vancouver is probably available, which I’d be more than happy to get him in a package with Hronak…and some combo of Byram, Peterka, Rosen, UPL or Levi (probably Demko involved), future picks or anybody not including Tuch, Tage or Dahlin to get it done.

I absolutely loved the press release the Anaheim owner put out….Pegula doing something similar would do wonders for us, backed by a power move like this within 24 hours would really energize the fan base.

 

[TageGod]

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I wonder what the response would be if Adams made that offer.

9 has to be pretty enticing for a team on the way down. Problem is Dobson is young enough to be around for a rebuild, he will need a new contract in that span though so who knows.

 

[TehDoak]

Doesn't matter. It's still the same clowns making the decisions.

I mean, you aren't wrong.

A U haul they can use when they move…EEE.

Unfortunately they aren't going to be moving anytime soon. The suffering will continue until morale improves.

 

[Jim Bob]

9 has to be pretty enticing for a team on the way down. Problem is Dobson is young enough to be around for a rebuild, he will need a new contract in that span though so who knows.

With Dobson and Byram both being RFAs this summer, how open they would be to a long term deal with their new team will play into it, as well.

If Dobson wants to get to UFA ASAP in Buffalo, that takes the deal off the table, too. Dobson is a year away from UFA and could just take his QO to hit the open market a year from now.

 

[TehDoak]

Who are you targeting with packages like those?

And one big challenge is that if they wanted to use Byrum & 9 to get a big, veteran RHD to pair with Power, is there a D like that on the trade block and without trade protection?

With the cap skyrocketing, the incentive to move players has dropped. It's going to be rare to see a team dump a good veteran off because of cap issues. I don't see any good RHD on the market for trade currently. I'm not sure why the Islanders would trade Dobson. I doubt they are going to go full rebuild.

If you are offering up Norris & 9, you likely need a top line center. Availability and trade protection is likely an issue there, as well.

I don't think anyone is taking on the walking injury bug that is Norris for much value. So we're going to need a top line center regardless if Thompson is a full time winger.

Quinn & 9 for a veteran middle 6 winger might be the most likely trade to get done. I just think that package doesn't get you the type of impact winger you would hope.

I mean...that is a similar package that Debrincat returned. It was a 7th and 39th OA picks from Ottawa.

Unfortunately the only player similar to Debrincat on the market might be Peterka.

 

[Push Dr Tracksuit]

is this a joke? Power +9 is the offer for a 1C or 1D

yes, thank you for seeing the obvious thing that everyone else did