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Kasperi Kapanen.. i thought last season was a wake up call for him and he would build on that.. but he sucks again..

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All the tools to be a 1st or 2nd line winger, for any NHL team, but i guess he forgets
to bring his tool box with him for most of his games.. His contract (3 200 000 cap hit)
ends after this season, i wonder, anyone gonna give him a contract?

What a waste of amazing speed and skill..
What a frustrating player.

Is it a mental thing? his biggest issue

about 200 career points in about 400 career games, potential for sooo much more
 
Kapanen is not a 'smart' player, so the environment that he needs to thrive is a coach who will give him a lot of structure, so he doesn't need to improvise very often.
 
He needs to be ordered where to move on the ice. Otherwise he just skates around hoping the puck gets to him in a good area. I think he would do well in a defence first system where there isn't a lot of creativity involved in making plays
 
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As a Blues fan who's watched almost every game, I wouldn't say he's "sucked." He's been fairly mediocre but I don't see him as a major issue. He's more suited for a bottom six role, as opposed to being on the second line like he's been much of the year.

While his offense hasn't been great, he's a responsible player and decent penalty killer. He's pretty unremarkable but I don't see him hurting the team either. He's just a guy.
 
As a Pens fan I'd have to agree... He's one of the most frustrated players to watch. He's got so much talent, good skating, decent tenacity for his size, and he seems to have a nice shot. But he just can't put it all together for some reason.
 
Good bototm 6er, but will always look lost if hes playing with top 6 guys because he can't think the game at that level. Had the same issues in toronto and hasnt really improved that since.
 
His issue is he has tunnel vision and no IQ. He can't play with good players in the top 6 because all he really can do is skate really fast with the puck and shoot. He struggles to make plays and use his linemates.

In the bottom 6 he is too inconsistent and soft.

Dubas getting 15th OA for him was highway robbery.
 
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This is what happens when you have just enough talent and contacts to get to the NHL, but you're not really interested in all the training and focus that goes into being a professional athlete. Still, some team will give him another chance. Probably because of his last name.
 
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feet faster than his brain.

hey, let's face it, us Finns often don't lead with our brains.

still love him and he continues to be one of my fav Finns in the league.
 
He's the modern Russ Courtnall. All the tools in the world but never seems to put it all together.

Russ Courtnall led two different NHL teams in scoring and posted seasons of 73, 76, 79 and 80 points.

You can say he left you wanting more because of his immense talent, but to suggest he never put it all together is inaccurate.
 
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He's got wheels and a plus shot but his lack of vision and poise with the puck and smarts always stood out to me in the NHL.

Even in spite of that, he probably should have had at least a season or two with closer to 50-60 points as a career high. Motivation and effort might be a factor too.

There's a reason he was drafted late 1st round and not top5.
 
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Russ Courtnall led to different NHL teams in scoring and posted seasons of 73, 76, 79 and 80 points.

You can say he left you wanting more because of his immense talent, but to suggest he never it all together is inaccurate.

He just felt like Kappenen to me. All the talent in the world but always felt like he couldn't put it all together to reach his potential. On the upside, my Leafs got John Kordic for him so there's that.
 
He just felt like Kappenen to me. All the talent in the world but always felt like he couldn't put it all together to reach his potential. On the upside, my Leafs got John Kordic for him so there's that.

Obviously, player for player, it was an atrocious deal, but what made it worse was how Courtnall got better and Kordic got worse.

Under Pat Burns, Russ Courtnall rounded out his game a little more. Though still nowhere near being a "defensively sound player" Burns did find ways to use Courtnall's speed to make a more effective player even when he didn't have the puck. Russ eventually went on to lead the 1990-91 Habs in scoring and then was traded for Brian Bellows, who scored 40-goals for the Canadiens in their Cup winning season then added 15 more points in 18 playoff games en route to winning a Cup. So, incredibly, the Canadiens managed to trade John Kordic for a 40-goal scorer on a Cup champion team.

Kordic arrived in Toronto and immediately ruffled feathers by wearing #27 which was the number worn by Frank Mahovolich and Darryl Sittler.

Kordic's "best" season in blue was 13-points and 252 PIM's in 55 games. General Manager Gord Stellick would be tipped off by the Toronto police about the circles Kordic was moving in and that he needs to be careful. Kordic denied this when confronted about it. 16-months after the Maple Leafs had acquired him, General Manager Floyd Smith (who replaced Stellick) suspended him without pay saying, publicly, that he was a distraction on and off the ice for the Maple Leafs. Privately, he said Kordic was done with the team after a one-on-one meeting.

The straw that had broken the camel's back and required this meeting was Kordic straight up missing a game, just not showing up. Shortly before that, Kordic had got into a physical altercation with diminutive goaltender Allen Bester in a restaurant. Not on the ice in th heat of a battle, this happened in a social setting.

The Leafs then packaged him up with Paul Fenton and traded them both for a 5th round pick just to be done with him.

Kordic managed no points - and a 101 penalty minutes - during his seven game Washington Capitals career. His next - and last - NHL stop came only after he begged for an opportunity and under the condition he would be released should he drink alcohol or use drugs.

The trade was terrible no matter what, but Kordic's rapid decline didn't just mean he was no longer a useful NHL player, but that he was literally no longer alive. Russ Courtnall played seven more seasons after Kordic died.
 
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Kapanen Kurl = drive the net with full speed then inexplicably pull up and pass back to the defense
 
All the tools to be a 1st or 2nd line winger, for any NHL team, but i guess he forgets
to bring his tool box with him for most of his games.. His contract (3 200 000 cap hit)
ends after this season, i wonder, anyone gonna give him a contract?

What a waste of amazing speed and skill..
What a frustrating player.

Is it a mental thing? his biggest issue

about 200 career points in about 400 career games, potential for sooo much more
There was a lot of talk from various radio and podcasts that talk Penguins in the last days of KK being in Pittsburgh that he is much more interested in being a hockey player than playing hockey. He is in it for the prestige not the competition. I heard Madden say this and I can’t remember off the top of my head… it’s been well over a year… But I heard it on at least one other podcast.

My guess with KK would be that he knows he just has enough natural skill he can basically coast a career just hanging around the NHL or eventually other leagues and just get all that prestige of being a pro player with minimal required effort. He embodies the “I’m going to do just enough not to get fired.” Mindset.

Others may disagree and nuke me for my opinions. But I think a player that has such a huge ability but has been passed on by the team that drafted him not once but twice along with another team where there is smoke there is fire. He has the ability to be a legit #1 winger but he is just gonna hang around the NHL and be a fringe 2nd line winger or good 3rd line winger as long as his natural ability allows it.
 
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