Kasperi Kapanen (Aberg/J Lindgren) Traded to Pittsburgh (15OV/Hallander/E Rod/Warf to Toronto)

[Peat]

I think Zucker is a bit more skilled than @BlindWillyMcHurt credits, but I think by skilled he means snipes from the circle, passes through big crowds, stick handling to create space when there was none, like a Kessel or Nylander, and Zucker ain't that skillful. Some nice moves, odd sweet snipe, but not standout skillful.

 

[PensandCaps]

Blueger-Lowry is good depth. I wouldn’t be against it depending on the cost. Winnipeg needs D and so does Pittsburgh though.

idk, good luck scoring.

Blueger has the ability to score more if you give Lowry the Brunt of the D responsibility.

Blueger is good at making skilled plays, so maybe he can become a 3C if given the role.

 

[Turin]

idk, good luck scoring.

Blueger has the ability to score more if you give Lowry the Brunt of the D responsibility.

Blueger is good at making skilled plays, so maybe he can become a 3C if given the role.

Yea you’d need to give Blueger a guy who could score.

 

[Ryder71]

Adam Lowry.

I think he's the type of player we need TBH. I am underwhelmed by his production however. For nearly three million he needs to step that up a bit. But definitely in the mold of a guy we could use no question.

 

[Ryder71]

idk, good luck scoring.

Blueger has the ability to score more if you give Lowry the Brunt of the D responsibility.

Blueger is good at making skilled plays, so maybe he can become a 3C if given the role.

I can't justify giving a 4C nearly three million though.

 

[PensandCaps]

I think Zucker is a bit more skilled than @BlindWillyMcHurt credits, but I think by skilled he means snipes from the circle, passes through big crowds, stick handling to create space when there was none, like a Kessel or Nylander, and Zucker ain't that skillful. Some nice moves, odd sweet snipe, but not standout skillful.

you know who was pretty damn skilled...Kahun.

 

[dogthateats]

Sheary is better than Kapanen

 

[PensandCaps]

Yea you’d need to give Blueger a guy who could score.

hmm. Blueger-Rust would be pretty good.

Simom with Sid and Guentzel.

Lowry back with Tanev again.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

I think Zucker is a bit more skilled than @BlindWillyMcHurt credits, but I think by skilled he means snipes from the circle, passes through big crowds, stick handling to create space when there was none, like a Kessel or Nylander, and Zucker ain't that skillful. Some nice moves, odd sweet snipe, but not standout skillful.

Yes FFS this is all I mean.

Some of you are seriously goddamned insufferable, sometimes. It's totally fine to have differing opinions. I DO tolerate many of yours and even applaud them for their validity when I disagree.

 

[PensandCaps]

I can't justify giving a 4C nearly three million though.

That's why i originally said Copp, as he is better and cheaper.

Copp would probably cost Pettersson though, and we can't lose him on LD.

 

[Turin]

I do think this means the next piece brought in needs to have playmaking ability. As it stands right now there’s too many straight line burners. Back when the Rangers hoarded them they at least had St. Louis still too.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

I think Zucker is a bit more skilled than @BlindWillyMcHurt credits, but I think by skilled he means snipes from the circle, passes through big crowds, stick handling to create space when there was none, like a Kessel or Nylander, and Zucker ain't that skillful. Some nice moves, odd sweet snipe, but not standout skillful.

And it's not bad to have players who produce that way, like Zucker. It's good to be able to score in a number of ways.

We just seem to have a lot of the same kind of player for our scoring wings right now. Rust, Zucker, Kapanen. Skate fast, retrieve pucks, get it to the scoring center, go to the net and whack away until you convert.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

you know who was pretty damn skilled...Kahun.

Agreed. No idea why he gone by play. I really do believe we downgraded

 

[Ryder71]

Sheary is better than Kapanen

Yes, At falling down.

 

[PensandCaps]

I do think this means the next piece brought in needs to have playmaking ability. As it stands right now there’s too many straight line burners. Back when the Rangers hoarded them they at least had St. Louis still too.

We need some goddamn Bonino

 

[Ryder71]

That's why i originally said Copp, as he is better and cheaper.

Copp would probably cost Pettersson though, and we can't lose him on LD.

Yeah, I don't think we have the assets to land Copp.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

I do think this means the next piece brought in needs to have playmaking ability. As it stands right now there’s too many straight line burners. Back when the Rangers hoarded them they at least had St. Louis still too.

With what, though?

And the top 6 appears to be full, unless there are more changes in the offing.

 

[66-30-33]

15th overall for a 3rd liner? LOL!!!! rather have kept the 15th overall and potentially drafted a franchise player. Whatever, guess Hornqvist is gone now and Kapanen is the 3RW and maybe get Granlund on a 1 year deal for 1RW.

BTW isnt Lindgren the Dman people here wanted in that Dumo to Leafs trade? a guy that can play solid top 4 minutes? or am I thinking of someone else?

edit- Nope it was Durmott.

 

[Peat]

Yes FFS this is all I mean.

Some of you are seriously goddamned insufferable. It's totally fine to have differing opinions. I DO tolerate many of yours and even applaud them for their validity when I disagree.

And to riff on this - what Kessel brought, what Kahun brought at times, were goals out of nothing. Goals we didn't have to work hard for.

Zucker is super effective. He helps the team score a bunch of hard goals. But he's unlikely to be the saviour when Plan A isn't working. That's okay.

The issue is we spaffed our load on a guy that's pretty similar but not as good.

Cup winning teams can usually kill you a number of ways. We've got about two at most.

 

[Pens x]

Color me shocked

Do you like this trade? We pissed away our 15th overall pick without unloading any bloated contracts, for a mediocre player. We picked up another bottom six, $3+ million player. Yay.

I know, he will play in the top 6 because we have crappy wingers.

This was a cap dump for Toronto.

 

[BrannigansLaw]

Can any of you guys provide some details about Hallander’s development? Never heard of him before

 

[NeedleInTheHay]

1. They drafted decently and have a great homegrown cast. They sorta botched the 3 1st round pics they had that one year but still got Debrusk outta it. him and Pasta are a big part of the youth movement. Then add in McAvoy and you have 3 really good and young players contributing offensivley. Not to mentiom that other ofd Grzelcyk who has good size oh and Torey Krug
2. They kept their draft pics while Krecji and Bergeron and Marchand were still around and surrounded them with talent

Cool. Boston has 1 cup in 50 years, pens have 5 in 30.

 

[K Fleur]

you know who was pretty damn skilled...Kahun.

Such a stupid trade. And I like Sheary more than most around here.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

And to riff on this - what Kessel brought, what Kahun brought at times, were goals out of nothing. Goals we didn't have to work hard for.

Zucker is super effective. He helps the team score a bunch of hard goals. But he's unlikely to be the saviour when Plan A isn't working. That's okay.

The issue is we spaffed our load on a guy that's pretty similar but not as good.

Cup winning teams can usually kill you a number of ways. We've got about two at most.

Yep. A million times, this.

I just don't get why people have a hard time coming around on this. This isn't a skilled lineup. And Crosby and Malkin are old. They need some bonafide talent. Which I KNOW is easier said than done but you are right -- it's like moving mountains to score goals on this team when the games are tight. You need that ability for a guy to come off the bench now and then, fly down the wing and rip one.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

And to riff on this - what Kessel brought, what Kahun brought at times, were goals out of nothing. Goals we didn't have to work hard for.

Zucker is super effective. He helps the team score a bunch of hard goals. But he's unlikely to be the saviour when Plan A isn't working. That's okay.

The issue is we spaffed our load on a guy that's pretty similar but not as good.

Cup winning teams can usually kill you a number of ways. We've got about two at most.

This is what I was driving at earlier.

Our offense is pretty one-note and predictable as is.