Speculation: KARLSSON Megathread | Part III | MOD Warning Edition

[DDRhockey]

indication i get from swedish media is that karlsson wants to stay in ottawa

 

[Sensung]

indication i get from swedish media is that karlsson wants to stay in ottawa

Good to hear. Confirms what most here believe to be true.

 

[Rand0m]

I think the reason he’s still on marketing material has more to do with the fact they likely haven’t had the budget to create anything else new that they’ve decided to keep him.

 

[jfc64]

indication i get from swedish media is that karlsson wants to stay in ottawa

Hmm, negotiating tactics? Wonder if Karlsson might be thrilled to play with Dahlin in Buffalo? Trade value at deadline for Karlsson in the style of:

firstrounder in 2019, firstrounder in 2020, secondrounder, thirdrounder plus three top team prospects? (assuminging future contract can be decided upon)

 

[Sensators]

Hmm, negotiating tactics? Wonder if Karlsson might be thrilled to play with Dahlin in Buffalo? Trade value at deadline for Karlsson in the style of:

firstrounder in 2019, firstrounder in 2020, secondrounder, thirdrounder plus three top team prospects? (assuminging future contract can be decided upon)

Seems like an optimistic return given that we cant get heiskanen now. How would we get 3 top team prospects and 2 firsts at the deadline? I would like that though.

 

[Sensung]

Seems like an optimistic return given that we cant get heiskanen now. How would we get 3 top team prospects and 2 firsts at the deadline? I would like that though.

EK will re-sign, but he is going to rip the league apart this season and remind the fans & GM's of a number of teams how stupid they were for the garbage returns they proposed.

 

[Rhaegar Targaryen]

Seems like an optimistic return given that we cant get heiskanen now. How would we get 3 top team prospects and 2 firsts at the deadline? I would like that though.

I don’t disagree with you, but that’s just one GM who isn’t offering a top prospect. Another GM easily could.

And honestly, I think Nill is a pretty bad GM for Dallas. He has the mind of an HF poster - always trying to make the big trades that aren’t thought through, and overvaluing his own pieces and prospects. I wonder why the Stars have had no success.

 

[Countdown0]

Our apparent lowball offer was nearly double this figure.

It was nearly $12.5 million? Nearly as in it was 9? or nearly as in 12?

Also, source?

 

[Rhaegar Targaryen]

It was nearly $12.5 million? Nearly as in it was 9? or nearly as in 12?

Also, source?

I’m pretty sure Ottawa offered 8 years, $80M. The news was everywhere around July 3rd, or so.

No idea if that contract included any signing bonuses, NTCs, etc.

 

[Senscore]

EK will re-sign, but he is going to rip the league apart this season and remind the fans & GM's of a number of teams how stupid they were for the garbage returns they proposed.

 

[jfc64]

Seems like an optimistic return given that we cant get heiskanen now. How would we get 3 top team prospects and 2 firsts at the deadline? I would like that though.

Sabres boards don't think this hefty return would land them Karlsson... If resigning Karlsson was already a done deal the Heiskanen for Karlsson trade might look different.

SOMETIMES that firstround pick is what a whole organization will put their trust in...

Myself I would gladly give three firstrounders for Heiskanen.

If Karlsson says "hey, I will not re-sign with you if you trade for me" his trade value is less than if he promise to sign. This kind of deal probably require bug sweepers and all. So, any rumours should be seen as not very reliable.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

It was nearly $12.5 million? Nearly as in it was 9? or nearly as in 12?

Also, source?

Our alledged offer was 8 years 80 million.

 

[Silencio]

Karlsson's latest Instagram story hints at a "new partnership coming up" - obviously this is some kind of sponsor/marketing thing, but what if EK is having some fun with the new owner rumours at the same time?

 

[JD1]

Our alledged offer was 8 years 80 million.

it's been reported in print media and discussed on 1200 that it was a bit north of that but no figures were quoted

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Our alledged offer was 8 years 80 million.

Closer to 11 Million .. insufficient bonus $ according to CJ Stevenson

A report by Chris Stevenson of The Athletic suggests the reason Erik Karlsson rejected the Ottawa Senators’ eight-year contract offer was the lack of signing bonuses so prevalent in new NHL deals. Stevenson notes that while the actual offer was quite close to the Drew Doughty deal, the signing-bonus money was not anywhere near Doughty’s and newly signed John Tavares. The $11 million per year was there but not up front.

NHL Rumors: Erik Karlsson, William Karlsson, William Nylander, More

 

[Micklebot]

it's been reported in print media and discussed on 1200 that it was a bit north of that but no figures were quoted

Yeah, I think I recall something along the lines of competitive with Doughty's deal, and between 10 and 11, exact words I think were "closer to $11 million than $10 million."

It was also speculated that the signing bonus structure is the hangup more-so than dollars.

Edit: looks like SOA beat me to it.

 

[Sensators]

Sabres boards don't think this hefty return would land them Karlsson... If resigning Karlsson was already a done deal the Heiskanen for Karlsson trade might look different.

SOMETIMES that firstround pick is what a whole organization will put their trust in...

Myself I would gladly give three firstrounders for Heiskanen.

If Karlsson says "hey, I will not re-sign with you if you trade for me" his trade value is less than if he promise to sign. This kind of deal probably require bug sweepers and all. So, any rumours should be seen as not very reliable.

Yea sorry I misunderstood 3 top team prospects, I was thinking like Mittelstadt/Thompson. But I guess those wouldn't be prospects anymore at the deadline. I really hope he just stays.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

it's been reported in print media and discussed on 1200 that it was a bit north of that but no figures were quoted

Okay so my point has stronger footing then lol.

 

[Silencio]

Karlsson's new ad makes me think of this:

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I can't read Swedish but according to translation software.. Claesson guesses Karlsson will be gone, although he hopes not.. Not much new info on anything .. refers to the Hoffman/Karlsson clash which indicates happened at the end of last year .

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

Did she get some work done? She looks a little different.

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

I can't read Swedish but according to translation software.. Claesson guesses Karlsson will be gone, although he hopes not.. Not much new info on anything .. refers to the Hoffman/Karlsson clash which indicates happened at the end of last year .

magazine says "What do you think - does Karlsson play in Ottawa this winter?"
Claesson says "There are so many rumors. I do not know. My guess is that he disappears from there, but I hope he stays. He is the team captain and he thrives in Ottawa. "

 

[JonnyMacSen]

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[Ice-Tray]

The smoke has ruined what would otherwise have been a lovely sunny August for Victoria Could be worse though, our homes are not in danger.