Karlsson, class act.

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Karlsson is the best defenseman in the world...I really believe that. He's never going to be a great 1 on 1 defender in his own end just because that's not his game, but he's a good team defender with structure, and he's adequate enough to get by 1 on 1. But, man, the way he controls the play/pace is like no one else in the NHL. He just never makes mistakes with the puck anywhere near him. He can escape any situation, he makes EVERY pass on the tape, he can adjust his angles to get shots through, etc. He's got to be just a nightmare to play against because of how consistent he is.

I couldn't have been more impressed with him in this series. They're just aren't a lot of guys in the world that have his skillset and mental makeup.
 

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The only player I lost respect for in that series was Bobby "Flopp'N" Ryan. I didn't have an issue with his play nor his character over the years but boy do I now.

Phaneuf is one I have never had respect for. That didn't change this series. And I think he's making way too much for a guy holding the occupational title of "Traffic Cone."

Karlsson is just plain nasty. Guy is one of the best D men in the game. Even with an apparent broken foot.
 

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Even though I hate him, I enjoyed that small exchange between Pierre and Karlsson on their first goal. I was pissed, but his reaction made me chuckle.
 

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Was planning on rooting for Ottawa going forward anyway because of the Andersons, but this helped. Only thing I fear is they win and the copycat NHL every team plays a 1-3-1 next year.

I don't even know how long Ottawa will stick with 1-3-1, at least as a regular diet. By my eye test, they dominated the Bruins when they put one forward in deep and aggressive on the puck, and sent a winger hard after the outlet guy on the half boards while also sending the defenceman on that side in deep to help force a turnover, leaving the opposite side winger and Dman back in a defensive posture.
The 1-3-1 is useful for bleeding the clock if you have a lead, or in the regular season if you're just trying to carry a tie into OT and get the guaranteed point.
I never feel good about trying to nurse a one-goal lead with an extremely passive defensive system.
If you play in the other team's end, you're 200 feet away from some fluky bounce ending up in your net.
 
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Happens around the league. Fans become involved and try to get in the heads of players and goalies by booing and chanting. Happens in all sports, most of the time its the best players getting the most attention. Chara for example gets booed almost every arena Ive been to.

It was phaneuf all series until game 6 in Boston this year. But he was bood because he's good... I'm sure he understands that. Everyone on here certainly should, not a lot of other reasons to boo him...
 

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I don't even know how long Ottawa will stick with 1-3-1, at least as a regular diet. By my eye test, they dominated the Bruins when they put one forward in deep and aggressive on the puck, and sent a winger hard after the outlet guy on the half boards while also sending the defenceman on that side in deep to help force a turnover, leaving the opposite side winger and Dman back in a defensive posture.
The 1-3-1 is useful for bleeding the clock if you have a lead, or in the regular season if you're just trying to carry a tie into OT and get the guaranteed point.
I never feel good about trying to nurse a one-goal lead with an extremely passive defensive system.
If you play in the other team's end, you're 200 feet away from some fluky bounce ending up in your net.

Nobody dominated anything. It was a slog of a series. Very ugly at times. Ottawa made more plays than Boston and deserved to win. Good luck against the Rangers.
 

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Thanks to all the B's fans that have had kind words about Karlsson.

With all the talk about the booing of Karlsson and Phaneuf, I'm actually really surprised that Burrows wasn't booed in Boston. Isn't there still a lot of ill will for Bruins fans from when Burrows was in Vancouver?
 

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Thanks to all the B's fans that have had kind words about Karlsson.

With all the talk about the booing of Karlsson and Phaneuf, I'm actually really surprised that Burrows wasn't booed in Boston. Isn't there still a lot of ill will for Bruins fans from when Burrows was in Vancouver?

Not really, we won the cup, they lost. Hate the Canucks and Burrows but they really hate us with poisonous venom, very bitter fan base towards us.
 

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I don't even know how long Ottawa will stick with 1-3-1, at least as a regular diet. By my eye test, they dominated the Bruins when they put one forward in deep and aggressive on the puck, and sent a winger hard after the outlet guy on the half boards while also sending the defenceman on that side in deep to help force a turnover, leaving the opposite side winger and Dman back in a defensive posture.
The 1-3-1 is useful for bleeding the clock if you have a lead, or in the regular season if you're just trying to carry a tie into OT and get the guaranteed point.
I never feel good about trying to nurse a one-goal lead with an extremely passive defensive system.
If you play in the other team's end, you're 200 feet away from some fluky bounce ending up in your net.

On the power play attempts sure. That Sens team is horrible to watch, but at the same token was weak and gave the Bruins a chance to win a series even with the devastating injuries.
 

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I've watched this clip repeatedly, and am so impressed with Karlsson.

You read about rookie hazing and whatnot in pro sports, but Karlsson put his celebration on hold for his exchange with the young McAvoy. And then he showed tremendous respect for the veteran Chara.

When Karlsson finally skated to the locker room, there wasn't another Sens player even in sight by the ice. That's not only class, that's leadership.

I know the awards were voted on already, and the voters likely already selected Burns for the Norris, despite him running out of gas down the stretch. But I wouldn't mind seeing Karlsson win it again.

Thanks to all the B's fans that have had kind words about Karlsson.

With all the talk about the booing of Karlsson and Phaneuf, I'm actually really surprised that Burrows wasn't booed in Boston. Isn't there still a lot of ill will for Bruins fans from when Burrows was in Vancouver?

I was a little surprised by that, too. At the same time, Burrows has definitely toned down his act in recent years, to the point that it's often hardly noticeable he's on the ice.
 

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Thanks to all the B's fans that have had kind words about Karlsson.

With all the talk about the booing of Karlsson and Phaneuf, I'm actually really surprised that Burrows wasn't booed in Boston. Isn't there still a lot of ill will for Bruins fans from when Burrows was in Vancouver?

Barely noticed him watching at home all series. Doubt the people at the Garden did. :laugh:
Would've loved to see what Dahlén could be for the Sens.
 

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Thanks to all the B's fans that have had kind words about Karlsson.

With all the talk about the booing of Karlsson and Phaneuf, I'm actually really surprised that Burrows wasn't booed in Boston. Isn't there still a lot of ill will for Bruins fans from when Burrows was in Vancouver?

Burrows played? Could've sworn he was scratched all series. :sarcasm:
 

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We boo Phaneuf because he constantly starts crap and never EVER answers for it. He is a dishonorable player.

I don't like Erik Karlsson. I think he looks like he's in the three musketeers. Mostly though, I just don't like his style of play. It's like the old Paul Coffey/Ray Bourque debate. Yeah, Coffey scored more points but if you thought he was a better player than Bourque, you were crazy. I grew up with that aesthetic. Your D-men are supposed to be tough, insanely hard to score on and the best of them were great offensively too, but that was their secondary objective. The offense first D is a player type that I've always had a chip on my shoulder about.

This series changed all of that. I've been watching Karlsson play for years like all of you, but if you hold an inherent bias against his style, you can talk yourself out of his greatness by watching 10ish games a year spread out over 8 months. When you watch 6 games in a week, your bias cant hold up to that kind of barrage. It's built on sand and the foundation cracks pretty quickly.

Karlsson is not the best one on one defender, but he is pretty good and within the structure of his team, its impossible to get pucks out of the corner with him there. More importantly, he is the entire engine of the team. He pushes the pace, he holds the puck and he is just smarter than almost every other player on the ice. My own preconceived notions have been shattered by what I just watched. That pass to Hoffman was one of the greatest feats of hockey ability I have ever seen. The vision, the decision making, the sheer physical talent to whip the puck 180 feet, 15 feet in the air to land in the exact spot it needed to be was sublime.

I'm 37 years old and have been watching hockey since I was 7. I've NEVER respected a guy with Karlsson's style more than I respect him. What a player. I'm rooting for the Sens this round completely because I want to watch more.
 

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I have read most everything here about Karlsson and I am happy to read the remarks that most fans here have made about him.
He is the "Orr" of our new NHL to a certain degree.
A lot of people always wondered what Orr would have done today and I would put my hand in fire that Orr would have done exactly what Karlsson did in this particular series and even more without any ounce of hesitation.

Karlsson is as close as you will ever get in today's players that can give you a glimpse of what Orr would have performed like.
In my opinion Orr would still be performing at a higher level than Karlsson in a lot of other aspects of the game.

Orr was just a freak of nature when it came to pure talent and everything else that a elite hockey player needs to have to be at the top of his game.

Lots of respect for Karlsson and I have had this for him practically from the on set of his career.
Glad that there are many here that are seiin it as well.
 

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Thanks to all the B's fans that have had kind words about Karlsson.

With all the talk about the booing of Karlsson and Phaneuf, I'm actually really surprised that Burrows wasn't booed in Boston. Isn't there still a lot of ill will for Bruins fans from when Burrows was in Vancouver?

He's invisible. Hard to boo a guy that sucks on his own. Only time I remember him was being tossed around and a couple bad plays he made.
 

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Thanks to all the B's fans that have had kind words about Karlsson.

With all the talk about the booing of Karlsson and Phaneuf, I'm actually really surprised that Burrows wasn't booed in Boston. Isn't there still a lot of ill will for Bruins fans from when Burrows was in Vancouver?

Simply put- burrows isn't enough of a factor to be worthy of boos
 

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I've watched this clip repeatedly, and am so impressed with Karlsson.

You read about rookie hazing and whatnot in pro sports, but Karlsson put his celebration on hold for his exchange with the young McAvoy. And then he showed tremendous respect for the veteran Chara.

When Karlsson finally skated to the locker room, there wasn't another Sens player even in sight by the ice. That's not only class, that's leadership.

I know the awards were voted on already, and the voters likely already selected Burns for the Norris, despite him running out of gas down the stretch. But I wouldn't mind seeing Karlsson win it again.

He should win it again. His previous Norris trophies he was not even half the defensive player he is now. At this point he does it all....no one even touches him IMO.
 

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