Kane Successful Knee Surgery - Jan 10 2025

[Jimmi McJenkins]

I like the player, but I think he's done. Maybe he can squeeze one more 20 goal season out of that body, but age and injury history are not on his side at this point also given the style of play he likes to play.

Trade him to Anaheim in a deal for Gibson (his wife is from LA, so that'll be an easy transition for his fam) and bring back Kostin retained for peanuts.

The Sharks can't retain, so someone else would be better.

 

[Canovin]

I like the player, but I think he's done. Maybe he can squeeze one more 20 goal season out of that body, but age and injury history are not on his side at this point also given the style of play he likes to play.

Trade him to Anaheim in a deal for Gibson (his wife is from LA, so that'll be an easy transition for his fam) and bring back Kostin retained for peanuts.

Kane just bought a new house in Edmonton. I doubt he wants to move

 

[Stoneman89]

I wouldn't bank on it. The guy hasn't played a hockey game in nine months and hasn't even been able to work out in months. 6-8 weeks is just recovery time from the surgery, never mind getting up to game speed.

Kucherov missed an entire year and was MVP in the playoffs. Mark Stone never played the entire year and was a key member of the cup run. You never know. It sure would be a huge bonus if he can come back and be relevant.

He won’t be. Knee surgeries take a year. Question is- why wasn’t this done prior to last year’s trade deadline

Sorry doc, they don't. Not all knee surgeries are the same , depends on which one he has as to the seriousness of it. I've had 3 different ones myself and recovery time varies dramatically.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Kucherov missed an entire year and was MVP in the playoffs. Mark Stone never played the entire year and was a key member of the cup run. You never know. It sure would be a huge bonus if he can come back and be relevant.


Sorry doc, they don't. Not all knee surgeries are the same , depends on which one he has as to the seriousness of it. I've have 3 different ones myself and recovery time varies dramatically.

It's like another deadline add, just free top-9 forward with bite.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Kane's a warrior. And a player getting the best care possible to repair and heal a flotilla of injuries. Sounds like the knee is to clean out versus reconstructive surgery. I don't doubt he will be back and ready to roll with a playoff hard ice game this team needs for second season hockey.

We have no idea of his day to day recovery work. High level updates only. Have to trust the rehab process and player's judgement to get himself ready to rumble. There's a systematic plan in place.

 

[Soundwave]

The Sharks can't retain, so someone else would be better.

A 3rd team can retain.

Kane just bought a new house in Edmonton. I doubt he wants to move

He can keep it as an investment and/or sell it. I doubt the wife will complain too much about moving to Sunny California. His NTC is up at the deadline I don't think any of the Cali teams are on his NTC list.

 

[Bring Back Bucky]

Kucherov missed an entire year and was MVP in the playoffs. Mark Stone never played the entire year and was a key member of the cup run. You never know. It sure would be a huge bonus if he can come back and be relevant.


Sorry doc, they don't. Not all knee surgeries are the same , depends on which one he has as to the seriousness of it. I've have 3 different ones myself and recovery time varies dramatically.

At your age it’s a miracle for you to survive, let alone fully recover. You’re a national treasure at this point.

I like the player, but I think he's done. Maybe he can squeeze one more 20 goal season out of that body, but age and injury history are not on his side at this point also given the style of play he likes to play.

Trade him to Anaheim in a deal for Gibson (his wife is from LA, so that'll be an easy transition for his fam) and bring back Kostin retained for peanuts.

Man I don’t think Kostin gets in our lineup in the playoffs. He sure is a guy who divides this forum I guess because I know as many agree with you as do with me.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

A 3rd team can retain.



He can keep it as an investment and/or sell it. I doubt the wife will complain too much about moving to Sunny California. His NTC is up at the deadline I don't think any of the Cali teams are on his NTC list.

He is absolutely not worth the extra assets for that. I would rather spend those on Colton Sissons at 50% to be 4C.

 

[The Nuge]

Doesn’t seem surprising. You could see a bit of a smirk in his last press conference. I was always expecting he wouldn’t play before the end of the season, and that we would spend big at the deadline.

 

[Da McBomb]

It's going to be exciting this trade deadline having all that capspace and not having to hear about 'money in money out' like last few years.

 

[Soundwave]

He is absolutely not worth the extra assets for that. I would rather spend those on Colton Sissons at 50% to be 4C.

It's a nominal amount of retention for a team that has the slot you might as well just take a 5th round pick or whatever.

Team toughness is still important in the playoffs.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Kucherov missed an entire year and was MVP in the playoffs. Mark Stone never played the entire year and was a key member of the cup run. You never know. It sure would be a huge bonus if he can come back and be relevant.


Sorry doc, they don't. Not all knee surgeries are the same , depends on which one he has as to the seriousness of it. I've have 3 different ones myself and recovery time varies dramatically.

For sure, but what I'm saying is Edmonton shouldn't be BANKING on it. They should prepare as if they won't have him, but it'll be a bonus if they do.

 

[TheNumber4]

So the Stone Spleen LTIR savings are all but garanteed at this point.

But unlike Stone, we have no idea what kind of difference Kane will be able to make when and if he comes back for the playoffs.

Unless this guy can make a difference in the playoffs, we should probably not celebrate this as a Vegas-like Cap f***ery move.

This very well could just be legitimate LTIR situation that does nothing for us from a Competitive advantage standpoint.

 

[Stoneman89]

So the Stone Spleen LTIR savings are all but garanteed at this point.

But unlike Stone, we have no idea what kind of difference Kane will be able to make when and if he comes back for the playoffs.

Unless this guy can make a difference in the playoffs, we should probably not celebrate this as a Vegas-like Cap f***ery move.

This very well could just be legitimate LTIR situation that does nothing for us from a Competitive advantage standpoint.

I don't think Vegas had any guarantees how Stone would perform after missing so much time either, same with Kucherov. Fortunately for both teams, it worked out.

 

[TheNumber4]

I don't think Vegas had any guarantees how Stone would perform after missing so much time either, same with Kucherov. Fortunately for both teams, it worked out.

These are elite, high IQ players though. Stone was dealing with a bruised spleen(big whoop). Kane seems to be a bruised and broken everything, and is far removed from when he was at his peak here. We’d have to go back to before even his wrist injury.

 

[Stoneman89]

At your age it’s a miracle for you to survive, let alone fully recover. You’re a national treasure at this point.


Man I don’t think Kostin gets in our lineup in the playoffs. He sure is a guy who divides this forum I guess because I know as many agree with you as do with me.

With some of the stupid things I've done in my youth and misguided life, you are correct, it is amazing I am still here. And I am only a treasure to my good wife, as long as the life insurance is all paid up.

These are elite, high IQ players though. Stone was dealing with a bruised spleen(big whoop). Kane seems to be a bruised and broken everything, and is far removed from when he was at his peak here. We’d have to go back to before even his wrist injury.

I'm not sure what elite or IQ has to do with someone's healing properties, but I guess we'll see how it turns out. A lot of MD's on here it seems.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

I do wonder how effective he's going to be coming back. He's not going to hit the ground running and injuries have really taken a lot of icetime away from him the past couple years.

 

[TheNumber4]

With some of the stupid things I've done in my youth and misguided life, you are correct, it is amazing I am still here. And I am only a treasure to my good wife, as long as the life insurance is all paid up.


I'm not sure what elite or IQ has to do with someone's healing properties, but I guess we'll see how it turns out. A lot of MD's on here it seems.

I’m just saying it’s more likely for a higher Iq/elite hockey player to get back to contributing after time off then it is merely a decent hockey player. Kane’s a good player but a step or two below Stone/Kucherov. Kane’s game is also built more so on his physicality than his hockey Iq, so the prospects of him being back to his same level vs. Those guys is less.

If he can’t get back to normal Kane levels of play. We’ve really gained nothing much in this LTIR scenario.

Now if we can replace Kane with a $5M worth of value to our roster AND get Kane back playing at Kane levels then we have the same advantage Vegas/Tampa had.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Lets see how "certain fan bases" react when we use Kane regular seasons $$$ to add players at the deadline and get Kane back for the playoffs? and yes I am looking at Vegas and Tampa for that

 

[PBandJ]

How were these guys getting out of bed during the playoffs?

Hopefully we get an angry, revitalized Kane for the playoffs.

 

[Da McBomb]

You do know that the second the Oilers take advantage of the LTIR loophole... Uncle Gary is going to step in and finally to do something about it.

 

[OfCorsiDid]

I like the player, but I think he's done. Maybe he can squeeze one more 20 goal season out of that body, but age and injury history are not on his side at this point also given the style of play he likes to play.

Trade him to Anaheim in a deal for Gibson (his wife is from LA, so that'll be an easy transition for his fam) and bring back Kostin retained for peanuts.

See this is why I can’t take what you say seriously.

Gibson? Gibson is your answer for our goaltending?

The guy that hasn’t posted a season with a sv% above .905 since 2018/19? 5th worst GSAA among starting goalies in that span? Making $6.4 million too? That’s your solution?

Give me a f***ing break.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

A 3rd team can retain.



He can keep it as an investment and/or sell it. I doubt the wife will complain too much about moving to Sunny California. His NTC is up at the deadline I don't think any of the Cali teams are on his NTC list.

Yeah, im sure the sharks will be lining up to trade for him.

See this is why I can’t take what you say seriously.

Gibson? Gibson is your answer for our goaltending?

The guy that hasn’t posted a season with a sv% above .905 since 2018/19? 5th worst GSAA among starting goalies in that span? Making $6.4 million too? That’s your solution?

Give me a f***ing break.

Dont worry though, he'll post an essay about the same thing just re-worded for the next 4 weeks until the deadline.

He's like that one guy in school who copies off someone and just rewords it a little, except he does that to himself.

Usually takes over threads

 

[Fourier]

He is absolutely not worth the extra assets for that. I would rather spend those on Colton Sissons at 50% to be 4C.

Whether he is the right target or not I doubt he costs much at all for a third team to retain. At 50% it is probably less than $300K in real money. SJ may even pay the cost since they save $600K.

Give SJ a fifth in 2026 and they trade the third team a 6th in 2026 to eat half the contract.

 

[Tarus]

I remember when he was a UFA and there was some debate about whether the Oilers should even attempt to resign him, citing the argument that aging power forwards fall off a cliff in their 30s. I think Kane might have taken that metaphor literally, because it seems he has the injuries of someone who physically fell off a cliff and barely survived.

Barely able to skate and a shadow of his former self by the end of the 2nd year of his contract, scheduled to miss the entirety of the 3rd year, and lots of time left to make season 4 memorable for all the wrong reasons too. Sad to say, but he's easily surpassed Souray for worst value on a big contract due to injuries in Oiler history(that I can think of).

Gotta feel bad for the guy, it's probably been rough for him.