Boy. You are so missing the point. Not relevant to this hypothesis. I want Miller to be the man, to be the stud that everyone thought he would be. We will never know if he has it in him if he plays with guys that he has to defer to. It's that simple. I want to see if he can dominate on his own.
Player Discussion K'Andre Miller
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That's fine I want good hockey players so if he's a complimentary piece while disappointing he will still be valuable.
Yea. But he is going to get stud money. It would be nice to find out if he's actually a stud. There could be so much more that he's capable of, why settle for less?
Proposal: - STL - NYR
NYR- Brady Skjei, Joey Keane, 2021 3rd rounder STL- 2020 1st rounder, Barbashev, Bouwmeester The Blues get younger on the left side, solidify their top 4 for a number of years with the Pietrangelo conerns. Skjei will absolutely benefit from being on a better team. Can play all situations...
Speaking of Skjei... some of the things I've realized on these silly little boards over the years... this might have been my last and probably only "proposals" on the main board. Very rarely venture to those parts. It's funny to look back on. The Blues pick became a late 26th overall choice. Skjei winded up being traded that same year for a first round pick. Turned into a ~40 point defender. Bouwmeester was on the tail end of his career, and unfortunately that same year had the cardiac scare that retired him. He was a throw in to be a placeholder for us. The Blues fans that were certain Pietrangelo would re-sign, he left that year. Vince Dunn was claimed in the expansion draft. Barbashev finally got off their bottom line a couple years later and became a solid 2nd liner
Anyway...
I expect Drury to give K'Andre a 1 year bridge as cheap as he possibly can. Maybe he can squeeze some cap savings there. I'm expecting somewhere around 5 but if he can get under that number we're money.
Physical skill, potential. Not many guys with his size or skating ability
What? He is terrible. Serious trash player. What is he great at? He had 8 goals last year. 8.
ReddestRum
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One of the dumbest metrics you can use when scoring 8 goals put him second for D-men with goals on the team. Fox had 17 goals last year. 6 of those were on the PP and Fox had over 250 minutes of PP time. Miller had 30.
You guys are reaching so hard it's less funny and more pathetic at this point.
I bet you guys are the types that loved the Staal signing for 5.7 x 6 when he put up a whopping 15 points max in those 6 years because even with his emotionless face, he played with emotion.
Mac n Gs
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His bad decisions with the puck became more and more prevalent under Phil Housley's coaching. He's coaching terrible habits into all of our young dmen's game, and it's only getting worse
McRanger92
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Anyone who thinks Miller deserves "stud money" on his next contract should log off Twitter and join us in reality. Chris Drury probably can't wait to hold firm on a team friendly deal and let Miller hold out to start next season.
I know the kids out there love Miller's "swag", but he's not in the top half of irreplaceable players on this team.
I know the kids out there love Miller's "swag", but he's not in the top half of irreplaceable players on this team.
Machinehead
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McRanger92
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I'm assuming. I dont run in those circles.
Machinehead
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Is it possible that sometimes advanced stats don't line up with the reality of how a guy plays?
KirkAlbuquerque
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i feel like advanced stats for defensemen are much flakier than for forwards
Machinehead
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I think there are instances of guys who make a lot of mistakes whose mistakes lead to great chances against, even if they mostly drive play. Miller falls into that category.
I would still rather have that than a guy who doesn't drive play.
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Islander fans don't even want to pay Dobson a ton of money because of his brain fart moments. I can't see anyway Miller deservers a big raise/long term. There's going to be a raise, but his demands need to be reasonable with his play or he can take a hike. I'm not locking him over over 7 with hope he improves to earn that contract soon.
leetch99
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Mancini has shown us that is a much better thinker already than Miller and he does not even know his own club yet let alone the opposition . Miller is clueless . I doubt he ever puts it together .
As is Miller is our second best defensemen. People get so angry these players aren't what they could be that they completely ignore what they are which is good. I see this with Kreider too.
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At a fan event, he gave me a plastic promo drink cup emblazoned with Bobby Granger. Don't know where he got it. Must've been one of a kind.
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I think Schneider is their second best defenseman, and it's not that close.
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I would like to see Schneider be a little more tougher when players are just pivoting back and forth down the wall. I expect it from Jones because he's much smaller and as great as it is to stay with your player, the end result typically buys times for other players to get in an open area either for a cycle or first to puck play. The forwards drop and then it's a scramble from there. Hard to throw this at Schneider since all our defensemen are prone to that taking place. Sam and Joe will praise the work with saying with their man, but they aren't doing anything to help get the puck out of the zone.
