Player Discussion Kaiden Guhle

[StreetHawk]

Seems like Slavin took a really team friendly contract though. I wouldn't be surprised if Guhle got a similar contract, even though he is a lesser player, because I expect the market value to be at that pricetag.

Anything less Would be a team friendly deal in my mind.

Slavin will also be 31 when the contract begins. That’s why it’s that low. If he was going to be 29 at the start it would be into the $7’s for sure.

 

[habdynasty]

What a great young player

 

[BJCOLLINS]

That's not the point. The point is he's not worth 7-8M$ a year, at least not at this point.

6M$ is the highest I'd go, and even that's a stretch. Potential is high, but there's a decent chance he never actually gets much better than Ben Chariot ever was. A good old Canadian, top-4 rugged dman.

You are absolutely correct the more points per game a defender can put up the higher AAV. Gone are the days when a dominant defence first D man is valued vis-à-vis point producing D.

 

[BargainBinSpecial]

So, I guess he gets the Suzuki special sooner or later, 8 yrs, 60 mil.

 

[Mrb1p]

So, I guess he gets the Suzuki special sooner or later, 8 yrs, 60 mil.

Would be a great contract, Im sure they could do 50 or 55 fpr 8 years though. That would be a friendly discount.

 

[Canadienna]

I don't see how Guhle can ask for anything close to 7-8m personally. I'd have guessed he would end up somewhere around 5m, maybe 5.5 on a longer term deal.

 

[Mrb1p]

I don't see how Guhle can ask for anything close to 7-8m personally. I'd have guessed he would end up somewhere around 5m, maybe 5.5 on a longer term deal.

Sanderson got 8.05

It's the closest comparable. They overpaid so we have to expect 1m less IMO, that's fair market, anything under that is freebies.

 

[Canadienna]

Sanderson got 8.05

It's the closest comparable. They overpaid so we have to expect 1m less IMO, that's fair market, anything under that is freebies.

Sanderson has been significantly healthier, AND more productive on a per game basis. He's averaged more TOI in both of their seasons and is 6 months younger with a higher draft pedigree.

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

Sanderson has been significantly healthier, AND more productive on a per game basis. He's averaged more TOI in both of their seasons and is 6 months younger with a higher draft pedigree.

...on a more desperate team that must overpay Americans to stay. Forgot that part but I fixed it

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Sanderson has been significantly healthier, AND more productive on a per game basis. He's averaged more TOI in both of their seasons and is 6 months younger with a higher draft pedigree.

They are not good comparables when discussing contracts.

 

[Canadienna]

They are not good comparables when discussing contracts.

I feel like Guhle may end up as good or better than Sanderson, but to be honest he doesn't deserve the same contract right now.

 

[Mrb1p]

Sanderson has been significantly healthier, AND more productive on a per game basis. He's averaged more TOI in both of their seasons and is 6 months younger with a higher draft pedigree.

Sanderson played the powerplay, that is the only difference. Guhle outproduced him in both seasons at 5v5. The perceived difference in their offensive impact is completely artificial.

23 5v5 points
30 5v5 points

A 50 game difference to put up 7 more points, in substantially easier minutes. Guhle played the 6th hardest minutes in the NHL for Ds.

 

[Ieatsht4brkfst]

8 x 4.75 - 5.25 ill be happy with

 

[Tyson]

I feel like Guhle may end up as good or better than Sanderson, but to be honest he doesn't deserve the same contract right now.

Neither does Sanderson.

 

[jiboy]

Guhle is always injured I wouldnt commit to a long term contract unless its pretty good deal. Hes got heart and good game but at some point its starting to be a problem.

 

[Canadiens98]

I'd be more than comfortable giving him up to 6.5 if he signs for 8.

 

[the]

Guhle is always injured I wouldnt commit to a long term contract unless its pretty good deal. Hes got heart and good game but at some point its starting to be a problem.

I don't know why but I wouldn't be surprised if he's the odd man out in a trade. He's definitely not untouchable.

I’m getting Romanov trade vibe.

 

[Jaynki]

I don't know why but I wouldn't be surprised if he's the odd man out in a trade. He's definitely not untouchable.

I’m getting Romanov trade vibe.

100% agree

I think Hutson, Matheson and Xhekaj are our LD for the next decade.

 

[habdynasty]

Matheson for a decade. lol lol lol

 

[jaffy27]

8 x 4.75 - 5.25 ill be happy with

That’s never gonna happen…..pretty sure the lower bar is at 5.75m$ up to 6.25m$.

Love this D, he’s prototypical team guy that does everything right.

If he can fill out at 215-220, he will be dominant and feared

 

[jaffy27]

100% agree

I think Hutson, Matheson and Xhekaj are our LD for the next decade.

If Reinbacher or Mailloux explode on the scene, look for Guhle to move to the left, one of the aforementioned to the right on that first pairing and Matheson to be traded at next years (2026) deadline.

 

[26Mats]

I don't know why but I wouldn't be surprised if he's the odd man out in a trade. He's definitely not untouchable.

I’m getting Romanov trade vibe.

If management decided to move Guhlw due to the injuries, I think he'd have even more trade value than Romanov had.

But having Reinbacher and Guhle really should solidify the D. They are the two way Foundational building blocks of the dcore.

 

[Rapala]

I'd tie Guhle's contract to just how much lean strong meat he can add to his frame.
The more lean strong meat the longer the term.

 

[Tyson]

I'd tie Guhle's contract to just how much lean strong meat he can add to his frame.
The more lean strong meat the longer the term.

For the style he plays he is way too small and weak

 

[KevSkillz4]

100% agree

I think Hutson, Matheson and Xhekaj are our LD for the next decade.

For the next decade if Guble is traded, I see Adam Engstrom more than Mike Matheson.

But, trade Guhle would be a huge mistake, he have such leadership in him, he have all tools to become a top pairing D, the only concern with him, it's like Dach. About his injuries.