junyab
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It's actually a 7 million year long contract for $10/yearYou can offer 10 year contracts now? Who knew![]()
That's the thing, was he even put in a position where he could produce offense?Guhle is good and we all like him. But you don't pay him upwards of $7M plus unless he is producing offense.[...] Probably his offense is taking a back seat to Matheson
I agree. For the amount of money I'd be prepared to offer Guhle on an 8 year contract based on what he's shown offensively up until now, I can't see why he'd commit long term to that.Guhle is good and we all like him. But you don't pay him upwards of $7M plus unless he is producing offense. Sorry. That's when we get into trouble, paying a premium for defensive guys. Danault got his $5.5M not because of his great defensive play but because he could also do 20/50.
Probably his offense is taking a back seat to Matheson, but I would bridge him and agree that he will get a chance to open things up, see what he can do.
He’s not an offensive D. He didn’t produce much offense even in juniors.That's the thing, was he even put in a position where he could produce offense?
2nd pairing on a bottom-feeder team, with 0:16 power play time on average. that's 1.2% of his total ice-time. for comparison, Matheson got 3:41 PP time, which was 14.4% of his total ice time.
maybe Kaiden has it in him, we just don't know yet.
I agree. For the amount of money I'd be prepared to offer Guhle on an 8 year contract based on what he's shown offensively up until now, I can't see why he'd commit long term to that.
He had a decent pace in his rookie year with 18 points in 44 games, but then in 70 games last season he only had 4 more points than that. He had decent junior numbers and has shown signs that he can produce in the NHL so I assume he'd want to either wait a year and then negotiate as an RFA, or sign a 2-3 year contract and hope he improves.
He was almost a PPG in his D+2. Not historic numbers but you’re selling him short there.He’s not an offensive D. He didn’t produce much offense even in juniors.
I’d offer him 8 years, $5M AAV. If he doesn’t take that, then 2 years, $3.5M AAV and look to trade him for a young top-six forward.
I agree and I don't even really think it's accurate to say that he hasn't produced offence. 40 points in 114 NHL games with zero PP time while mostly playing on a matchup pair is pretty legitimate production from a defenceman who isn't selling out for offence. Over the past two seasons combined he's 51st among defencemen in even strength P/60. Hard to really complain about that from a rookie & 2nd year player who had big defensive responsibilities on a terrible team.That's the thing, was he even put in a position where he could produce offense?
At 5v5 he's produced at basically the same rate as Letang and Hanifin since he entered the league. He's never going to be Erik Karlsson but I wouldn't typecast him as a DFD by any means. One of these years he's going to comfortably break 45P because injuries or circumstance will get him 1.5-2 minutes a night of PP time.He’s not an offensive D. He didn’t produce much offense even in juniors.
3 of those players have a combined 2 games NHL experience. Settle down.Guhle is a core player on this team. Basically he’s Jacob Slavin.
Hutson
Guhle
Mailloux
Reinbacher
This is our top core 4. Round out Xhekaj, Engstrom, Harris, Struble.
This is Montreal. There's no settling down. Only hype, followed by the predictable disappointment then recriminations.3 of those players have a combined 2 games NHL experience. Settle down.
He would need PP time for that…. And with Hutson that won’t happen for him. 6x 5M works for me. He’s our best D out of the core and future Asst captainGuhle is good and we all like him. But you don't pay him upwards of $7M plus unless he is producing offense. Sorry. That's when we get into trouble, paying a premium for defensive guys. Danault got his $5.5M not because of his great defensive play but because he could also do 20/50.
Probably his offense is taking a back seat to Matheson, but I would bridge him and agree that he will get a chance to open things up, see what he can do.
He tried to save you and you just threw the middle finger right back in his faceIt's actually a 7 million year long contract for $10/year
Then it'sThis is Montreal. There's no settling down. Only hype, followed by the predictable disappointment then recriminations.
i'd only offer $5.5/yr for 7million yrs better for the cap long term lolIt's actually a 7 million year long contract for $10/year
He wasn’t used on the PP because it is quite clearly not the best use of his time. There isn’t much offensive creativity you will see from Guhle. He can get in lanes and pick up some assists with quick transition play, but he will never be a staple on the PP. it’s not his game.That's the thing, was he even put in a position where he could produce offense?
2nd pairing on a bottom-feeder team, with 0:16 power play time on average. that's 1.2% of his total ice-time. for comparison, Matheson got 3:41 PP time, which was 14.4% of his total ice time.
maybe Kaiden has it in him, we just don't know yet.
He is unlikely to ever make a Canadian Olympic team at any point in his career.lol, picking apart the offensive game of a brilliant young (22) defenceman…….this kid is the real deal, teams win with this type of player! There is no doubt Guhle will be a dominant defensive force when he’s 25-30yo, a perennial team Canada D.
A solid Dman but not at the Team Canada levelHe is unlikely to ever make a Canadian Olympic team at any point in his career.
That's not the point. The point is he's not worth 7-8M$ a year, at least not at this point.lol, picking apart the offensive game of a brilliant young (22) defenceman…….this kid is the real deal, teams win with this type of player! There is no doubt Guhle will be a dominant defensive force when he’s 25-30yo, a perennial team Canada D.