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Nicko999 said:
The proposals here are pure fantasy. Take a deep breath, it's just for fun.

Eventually though, some D-men will have to be traded:

Ghule
Reinbacher
Hutson
Xhekaj
Mailloux
Engstrom
Konyushkov

That's 7 D-man. Not everyone will make it probably but I am also not counting a vet or 2 that will be added to that group (whether it's Matheson and Savard or others).

I did not include Harris, Kovacevic, Barron, Struble who have no to little value but are currently part of the D-core as well.
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What’s not want for baron?
 
BonMorrison said:
Tomasino hasn't been given a fair shake in Nashville really and wouldn't surprise me if he's moved in a change of scenery kind of change. With the right opportunity he can flourish into a top 6 player.

Preds also need LD with Josi and McDonagh not getting any younger.

Tomasino+ for Guhle?
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Lolno.
 
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If Guhle were to be traded ithas to be a return higher the his value even if we have to add.

It starts at Zegras or better. Certainly NOT your "prospect with potential".
 
McJedi said:
I know the answer to this question.

Jon Drouin!

Or maybe Cozens and Buffalo can role the deepest NHL defense since the 1970s.
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Dozens is actually an interesting return I would consider 1 for 1.

Junohockeyfan said:
Habs greatest weakness today is their defense because of the development of young dmen. So what does the OP propose? To Trade our most developed and promising young dman! LOL

Stupidity at its finest.

We need our young D and prospect D to develop into a Guhle quickly so that we can compete. Currently, of your young D only Guhle is top-4 level. Hutson and Reinbacher are years from being at Guhle's level.
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Habs have 3 forwards that have more than 30 pts right now... 3!
That's at par with San Jose while even Chicago has more with 4 players above that mark.

And considering our forward prospects might be the worst in the league, trading from a position of strength will make sense down the line.
 
Nicko999 said:
Dozens is actually an interesting return I would consider 1 for 1.



Habs have 3 forwards that have more than 30 pts right now... 3!
That's at par with San Jose while even Chicago has more with 4 players above that mark.

And considering our forward prospects might be the worst in the league, trading from a position of strength will make sense down the line.
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Habs had key injuries to players including Dach who is the straw that stirs the drink that is a second line. Roy is developing nicely. Dach will address a huge need. Habs can also sign a top-6 UFA

Without Guhle, the Habs already well below average D will take a huge hit. Hutson / Reinbacher are years away from being impact players. Guhle is already a top-4 dman and is developing nicely.

Guhle is the one player the Habs can't trade.
 
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Junohockeyfan said:
Habs had key injuries to players including Dach who is the straw that stirs the drink that is a second line. Roy is developing nicely. Dach will address a huge need. Habs can also sign a top-6 UFA

Without Guhle, the Habs already well below average D will take a huge hit. Hutson / Reinbacher are years away from being impact players. Guhle is already a top-4 dman and is developing nicely.

Guhle is the one player the Habs can't trade.
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Actually if we are playing that game, Matheson is the player that would hurt losing the most. The offense would dry up to such extent we would make the Hawks/Sharks juggernauts.
Habs are 2nd in D scoring behind Colorado and almost entirely of the production is Matheson's. Look at forwards scoring only and MTL is 100% bottom 3.

Nobody is untouchable, we need decent forwards. Injuries happen to all 32 teams. Apart to Dach's (who is injury prone) and Newhook missing about 2 months, the team has been healthy so injury excuse cannot be used.

And I don't want to trade Ghule. But in order to get quality, you need to give quality and he is our most valuable D-man.
 
Guhle is the Habs 1D at 21, what the f*** are we gonna trade him for lmao ? Habs fans are so bad.

Zegs2sendhelp said:
I’d imagine his value is similar to like romonav?

Mid 1st range, but habs should just keep him… they can move picks and lesser prospects to find forward help
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Showed your true colors there, you have no idea about either players. Guhle is so much better than Romanov.
 
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While the Habs have a surplus of young D-men and eventually some will have to move on, they are not in a position to trade Guhle. Right now he is the best of the young D that are on the roster or have played games in Mtl.

He is better than Xhekaj, Struble, Harris, Barron. Reinbacher, Hutson, Mailloux are all unknowns at the NHL level. While a natural LD, he has shown he can handle playing on the right side as well.

Maybe in 3 years he is the D you move but not until you know what the others are.

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Mrb1p said:
Guhle is the Habs 1D at 21, what the f*** are we gonna trade him for lmao ? Habs fans are so bad.


Showed your true colors there, you have no idea about either players. Guhle is so much better than Romanov.
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I feel like if Romanov was still on habs you’d be singing a different tone
 
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Mrb1p said:
No I wouldn't, and I loved/still love what Romanov brings. Difference between a steady 2nd pair D and an all-situation top pair D. Stop stats watching and pick up a remote, like almost all interactions we have, it's clear you don't watch much hockey.
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I didn’t look at his stats tbh, but now that I have I stand by my original statement

I think he’s become a bit overrated, he’s a solid top 4 guy, don’t think he’ll become a top pairing guy on a contender. On a team like Chicago Anaheim San Jose or Montreal sure…. But we’re all shit
 
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Zegs2sendhelp said:
I feel like if Romanov was still on habs you’d be singing a different tone
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Most of us were ok trading him. We were more concerned with dachs injury history than losing romy. He'd stagnated and seemed to be a #4 at best. Defensively Guhle is already better than Romanov was by a fair margin while being younger than he was at the same time. Romanov didn't really show any flashes he could be that top pairing all situations guy the way Guhle did immediately at 20.

I'd prefer Romanov to struble or Harris but that's a luxury on the third pairing. Xhekaj projects to be better than Romanov at his strengths and Xhekaj also is better at moving the puck. Romanov's skillset is already abundant here except the guys we have also have other layers to their game.
 
Zegs2sendhelp said:
I didn’t look at his stats tbh, but now that I have I stand by my original statement

I think he’s become a bit overrated, he’s a solid top 4 guy, don’t think he’ll become a top pairing guy on a contender. On a team like Chicago Anaheim San Jose or Montreal sure…. But we’re all shit
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As a Habs fan I agree, for me Guhle is overrated by a part of the fan base. He has not shown enough right now for anybody to consider him a sure top pairing Dman on a cup contender. He is very good though and I would not trade him because he is MTL best shot at a top pairing guy right now. As a fan still traumatized by Drouin, I am rejecting any D for W trade as a rule ;)
 
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Baksfamous112 said:
Right. How stupid would someone have to be to trade a below to average first line winger for a 6’3 21 years old D who is able to shut down the top players in this league and playing top line minutes. Right?
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If building a winning franchise is their priority, than yes, that would be a bad move.

But some people just love sizzle... Fans certainly are entitled to celebrate and prioritize whatever floats their boat.

That said, I do think Zegras has it in him to become a quality, perhaps even top tier/elite first line winger... But at this stage, Guhle is a better contributor and a more solid bet to become a quality top pairing D, perhaps even top tier/elite.
 
Nicko999 said:
Actually if we are playing that game, Matheson is the player that would hurt losing the most. The offense would dry up to such extent we would make the Hawks/Sharks juggernauts.
Habs are 2nd in D scoring behind Colorado and almost entirely of the production is Matheson's. Look at forwards scoring only and MTL is 100% bottom 3.

Nobody is untouchable, we need decent forwards. Injuries happen to all 32 teams. Apart to Dach's (who is injury prone) and Newhook missing about 2 months, the team has been healthy so injury excuse cannot be used.

And I don't want to trade Ghule. But in order to get quality, you need to give quality and he is our most valuable D-man.
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Its not about offense. Its about competence from the backend.
 
Zegs2sendhelp said:
I feel like if Romanov was still on habs you’d be singing a different tone
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Guhle his and was always better then Romanov... Alex hits like a train and we loved his potentiel but we never viewed him as #1 or 2

Kaiden has all the tools including leadership hes obviously not there yet he just turned 22 like a month ago but the potentiel was always bigger then Romy i think that even today hes the better def and hes 2 years younger

Would love Necas but Guhle is here to stay unless we package him for a bigger player then Martin
 
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