Player Discussion Kaapo Kakko

[bhamill]

I doubt 60, but if he plays like he played in that game every single night, he'll break 45. Maybe 50 an outside chance.

On the third line that'd be stellar.

Maybe but he hit 40 not playing as well as he did last night on the third line with Laf (when he “sucked”) and a lesser version of Fil…

60 points, mainly all at 5v5, would be an EPIC season. That's Lafreniere's last season where he was playing on one of, if not the best line in hockey type of season

And Laf’s line was, and still will be, seeing the other team’s best defensive players. Our third line will be facing lesser. We shall see.

 

[Mugless]

20 goals, 50 points

 

[Rempe73]

G A PTS
23 0 23

His assists get taken away

That reminds me of this insane Brandon Pirri stat line

And yet, the most surprising thing about that is that he was +6

 

[iamitter]

No way he scores 60. Laf didn't even score 60 last season.

 

[RangersFan1994]

10 goals at most, then traded to a team like the Bluejackets and then lead their team in goals with 15 while missing the playoffs again lol

 

[80shockeywasbuns]

10 goals at most, then traded to a team like the Bluejackets and then lead their team in goals with 15 while missing the playoffs again lol

I could see kakko scoring and the camera catches him being startled by the cannon

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

No way he scores 60. Laf didn't even score 60 last season.

I agree, which makes his 22-23 year of 18-22-40 +12 pretty solid if he can repeat it. Playing all 82 helps

He’s a 20-20 kinda guy. Maaaaybe 25-25 if things break right for him and he get more playing time.

But he’s all 5on5 and shouldn’t be getting top 6 minutes

 

[IDvsEGO]

I agree, which makes his 22-23 year of 18-22-40 +12 pretty solid if he can repeat it. Playing all 82 helps

He’s a 20-20 kinda guy. Maaaaybe 25-25 if things break right for him and he get more playing time.

But he’s all 5on5 and shouldn’t be getting top 6 minutes

more than solid. Laf did it while averaging about 17+ minutes a night.
Kakko did that while averaging 15 a night.

Kakko has the talent to do it again and more. And he does it while being alot better defensively than laf.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

more than solid. Laf did it while averaging about 17+ minutes a night.
Kakko did that while averaging 15 a night.

Kakko has the talent to do it again and more. And he does it while being alot better defensively than laf.

And in a third line role - with his contract, if he can give this team 20-20 there’s absolutely nothing to bitch about other than falling short of expectation of a 2OA.

 

[TheDirtyH]

I don't think it's likely the season totals are eye popping in any way. But I do think that if this line stays healthy and together, a big second half is in the cards. I could see Kakko ending the season with 30-35 points but enough of those down the stretch that were feeling really good about him heading into the playoffs.

 

[IDvsEGO]

I don't think it's likely the season totals are eye popping in any way. But I do think that if this line stays healthy and together, a big second half is in the cards. I could see Kakko ending the season with 30-35 points but enough of those down the stretch that were feeling really good about him heading into the playoffs.

I dont get this take. If the line stays healthy, I think the line gets 85+ points out of chytil and kakko.

The "kid line" in gallant's last year, was 120 points. Laf had 39, kakko had 40, and chytil had 45.
Now replacing Cuylle for Laf is a downgrade, but Kakko and Chytil are very good together.
Additionally, Lavi is giving this line lots of ice time, that Gallant never did.
Gallant kept them at 10ish minutes of even strength time at most.
They were 13+ in game 1. The better they play, and they tend to play the most how Lavi wants. The more ice time they're going to get.

 

[DuneGoon84]

I don't think it's likely the season totals are eye popping in any way. But I do think that if this line stays healthy and together, a big second half is in the cards. I could see Kakko ending the season with 30-35 points but enough of those down the stretch that were feeling really good about him heading into the playoffs.

He's got the style to help us in playoffs, which i am totally fine with.

 

[noncents]

He's got the style to help us in playoffs, which i am totally fine with.

this is my thing. he plays a grindy playoff style game. more than any other forward on the team tbh

 

[Profet]

this is my thing. he plays a grindy playoff style game. more than any other forward on the team tbh

"Grindy?"

Really?

I legit had to double check that this thread was still about Kakko.

I don't even know if we're watching the same player anymore.

 

[noncents]

"Grindy?"

Really?

I legit had to double check that this thread was still about Kakko.

I don't even know if we're watching the same player anymore.

i don't mean gritty, like pest or in your face.

grindy = below the dots puck possession and tough defensively. that's Kakko. he has shown a dire need to improve the production of offense from Ozone possession, and poor PP instincts. but yeah the two things he dies well are grind out possessions on the half wall and staunch the usual ranger chance-against bleeding. low event hockey. grindy.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I dont get this take. If the line stays healthy, I think the line gets 85+ points out of chytil and kakko.

The "kid line" in gallant's last year, was 120 points. Laf had 39, kakko had 40, and chytil had 45.
Now replacing Cuylle for Laf is a downgrade, but Kakko and Chytil are very good together.
Additionally, Lavi is giving this line lots of ice time, that Gallant never did.
Gallant kept them at 10ish minutes of even strength time at most.
They were 13+ in game 1. The better they play, and they tend to play the most how Lavi wants. The more ice time they're going to get.

I think this version of the kid line would be better than 2022 because it appears to me that Chytil may have taken that next step.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Well he put up 40 all at EV two seasons ago with pre breakout Laf and a lesser Fil… He’s two years stronger/more mature, he’s driving the net more, seems more confident. Confidence was huge in Laf’s step last year, Fil looks like a beast this year and I think 24-72-50 mesh in a really complimentary way. That third line won’t be facing other teams top dmen or checkers, that will be lines 1 & 2… Line 3 is set up for success IMO. I think Cuylle could go 20-20-40 under these conditions. Guess we will see.

Kakko has never put up 40 pts at even strength. Hopefully he can this season because it will mean that 3rd line is a legitimate weapon. He had 33 two years ago and played about 33% of his minutes on the top line.

 

[IDvsEGO]

Kakko has never put up 40 pts at even strength. Hopefully he can this season because it will mean that 3rd line is a legitimate weapon. He had 33 two years ago and played about 33% of his minutes on the top line.

37 at even strength. I assume your difference came from 5v5 only?

 

[DanielBrassard]

37 at even strength. I assume your difference came from 5v5 only?

Evolving-hockey has him at 33 at even strength not 5v5, maybe they are wrong idk. What were you looking at to find his totals?

 

[IDvsEGO]

Evolving-hockey has him at 33 at even strength not 5v5, maybe they are wrong idk. What were you looking at to find his totals?

Hockey reference
18 even strength goals
19 even strength assists

 

[bhamill]

Kakko has never put up 40 pts at even strength. Hopefully he can this season because it will mean that 3rd line is a legitimate weapon. He had 33 two years ago and played about 33% of his minutes on the top line.

Actually you are wrong, two seasons ago he had 37, NOT 33, at EV. But you’re also right, I should have said “MOSTLY at even strength,” mister stickler. … And he played twice as much time with line 3 onbviously and that 1/3 of his time with that 1st line that doesn’t score like a 1st line at EV. Mika scored 48 points at EV that year to Kakko’s 37, and 13EV goals to Kakko’s 18 at EV…. wow, what a boost that was to Kakko’s numbers. Hahahahaha. He may have been better off playing 100% of his games with line 3. Hahahah.

 

[Cuckoo4Kakko]

Played another very good game. His secondary assist was the best part of the goal. Imagine our 1C trying like that for one shift.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Played another very good game. His secondary assist was the best part of the goal. Imagine our 1C trying like that for one shift.

Kakko for 1C

 

[DuneGoon84]

Kakko playing better than Mika. He has regressed so much unfortunately.

 

[Sisu4ever]

In today's game: Chytil, Cuylle, Kakko +3. Mika -4.