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It's so ironic that Quinn was brought in to be a development coach and that ended up probably being the worst part about him as an NHL coach.
Player Discussion Kaapo Kakko: Part V
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I think letting Ryan Strome walk all over him was equally as damning
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Not for nothing, but Kakko did go from being one of the worst defensive forwards in the league to one of the best. And Mika and Buch both took their games to another level under Quinn.
Not everything he did was good, but lets not act like everything he did was bad either.
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Eh... A little perspective here. Fox earned a Norris in his second year in the league.
If you are going to blame him for the struggles of our young forwards, then you have to credit him for the successes of our young defensemen. Plus what @GAGLine said in the post above mine is true as well.
Kaapo Kakko Fluff Piece.
Glen Sathers Cigar
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I don't think everything about Quinn was bad, I'm just saying the development aspect was arguably the worst part of his stint as the coach.
Fox is a weird case because he's an elite player who was basically ready to go when he got here, he would've succeeded regardless of the coach.
Quinn can have credit for Fox if you want, doesn't change the fact that he oversaw the two highest draft picks this franchise has ever had and they both had the worst first seasons by players in their draft positions over the last decade plus. I don't think he was the worst coach ever and it's not all entirely his fault, but he definitely botched aspects of development for these kids. Kakko and Lafreniere aren't Brett Howden and shouldn't be given the same message and expected to play the same way as him.
We all sat here the last 2 years and wondered where the creative and confident and talented players we saw in all those highlight packages went. Then over the past few months drips and drabs of evidence have come out that show Quinn wasn't really handling the development particularly well.
If your young players that are expected to be offense drivers are afraid to try and make a play because they know they're going to get benched or demoted then something is off with the coach. Of course it's not his fault that Kakko's foot speed wasn't up to snuff and that Lafreniere had the whole covid situation impact his entrance into the NHL, but he definitely was lacking with some of his teachings. The stuff that came out about totally micromanaging his players down to things like no stick handling on a 2 on 1 and droning on about which way their blades are facing and small things like that.
Idk I'm not a giant Quinn hater. He seemed like a really nice guy who really genuinely cared about representing the organization and really cared about his players. He had runs where he had the team playing really well, it's tough being a coach of a young rebuilding team. That said, his firing was deserved and the team is better off with Gallant.
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Fluff piece was good enough for me.
Watching this kid grow is a joy.
Watching this kid grow is a joy.
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This is great to see.
He is really growing and getting more comfortable with being in the US and English.
Can’t imagine how much of a change that could be at such a young age
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Kakko is out
Blackwell is in
You've not seen nothing like the mighty Quinn
Blackwell is in
You've not seen nothing like the mighty Quinn
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You 'Orns!
It doesn't seem to me he's dwelling on Quinn so much as he reveling in his new license to play his game under Gallant.
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Kids seems like he can finally let his shoulders down and breathe and smile again. Onwards and upwards.
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Which is an indictment on Gorton, and I am a fan of gorts...
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All of our successful young d men you reference were in their 20s w multiple draft plus years of development both in their game and their maturity to be better equipped for the NHL, kakko and laf were two 18 year olds. There is something to be said for 20+ year olds being better equipped to come into the league vs 18 year olds needing more coach and org support when they come in.
that is so klassik kakko : 0pts in 10games... not even one or two freebies for confidence. Then goes 6pts in 5 games haha. Good for him, hopefully he can continue to be rewarded and grow. We all know his confidence wasnt great but now its starting to fall in place for him. This is the season he can truly establish himself as a top6 on this team.
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I get a kick out of his reactions and interviews. Everything is so genuine.
His huge grin after the Laf fight was hysterical.
His huge grin after the Laf fight was hysterical.
Wonder if the move to Kreids-Zib line had anything to do with this. Kreids is the net front god, so Kakko's role in that line would be much closer to what he did pre-NHL.
Going to be interesting to see what the lines look like in the next practice
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kakko really is the missing piece of that line. Hopefully it could work out.
Quite frankily by what he is saying Laf is the missing piece on the Panarin line. He was at his best in the chl when close to the net screening and making plays
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I know patience is needed to let the lines synergize, but I'm puzzled by Kakko going to Mika and Kreider. Kakko just gave an interview that he's adapted his game to Panarin and Strome and now he's got to adjust his game again to Mika and Kreider. Mika doesn't carry the puck like Panarin. That pair needs Kakko to help on the cycle more than Panarin and Strome, where he said that he just needs to go to the net and get open for passes from Panarin and Strome.
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In a way, maybe Kakko having to adapt to both these lines is the best way to make him a well rounded player. At the end of the year he is going to be something else.
Yeah but at some point you need to give the kid some stability. Third season now where he doesn't just stick on one line.
The Kreider-Zib line always made more sense for Kakko. Everyone here was calling for that switch. It is a bit head scratching that it came just as he was adjusting to Panarin and Strome, but that Zib line absolutely dominated the isles with Kakko on it.
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yeah. and for the few times Laf has been on the ice with Strome it's been clear that they have some chemistry as well.
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