DeepFrickinValue
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Comries dad gonna buy all the empty seats tomorrow?
This team buyin to defense kind of affords jets the ability to try a lilljgren on the backside.
Confirmed with Link: Kaapo Kahkonen 1 x $1M Winnipeg reclaimed
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JetsFan815
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I would have preferred if he stayed up, hope we don't lose him on waivers although I fear we might with multiple teams like the Canucks and the Leafs having down horrendous goaltending or injuries or both.
Hank Chinaski
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Head scratcher for sure.
I’m pulling for Comrie, he’s someone I’ve rooted for since the Jets drafted him, and rooted for in other uniforms. Seems like an awesome guy, and dedicated to his craft. But sorry… he ain’t it as an NHL backup.
Of course goalies are voodoo and Comrie could pull off an excellent season. Maybe Flaherty can rebuild his game (he looked AWFUL in Buffalo). Who knows.
It seems the more sensible move would’ve been to keep Kahkonen and pivot to Comrie - or another replacement level goalie - if he wasn’t getting the job done.
Scheifele identified him as one of his best friends and the Scheifele, Morrissey, Lowry, Helly leadership group is pretty tight. I’m guessing this is a default between 2 relatively equal players to who is the best fit with the team.
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I'd kindly settle for a tall glass of milk.
It's an easy (as pie) decision frankly.
Here's how the back-ups produced since the 2020-21 season:
2020-21
2021-22
2022-23
2023-24
Why wouldn't you want him back?
If Brossoit and Comrie keep having strong years with the Jets, bomb with other teams, I'd still love to have them back. If Hellebuyck had a say in it, all the better! He's our best player, and the best player in the 2.0 era. If Greg Maddux only wants to pitch to Eddie Perez, then you don't force him to play with Javy Lopez if he's not comfortable with it.
It's not like the Jets have to worry about developing a starting goalie over the next few years, because we still have Hellebuyck for the next 6 seasons.
Kaapo Kahkonen's last 3 seasons (+career stats)
Comrie's last 3 seasons (+career stats)
I don't think Kaapo separates himself enough.
Here are the top games that Comrie played in last year, 6 away games, and not the easiest competition down the stretch.
SJS sucked, and so did he, isolating from January on. Nice finish with NJD, save in the win column.
If we were absolutely forced to pick one of the two as a starting goalie, then Kaapo. Thankfully that's not a situation that we're in. For a back-up for just this year, I'm comfortable with Comrie.
Here's how the back-ups produced since the 2020-21 season:
2020-21
2021-22
2022-23
2023-24
Why wouldn't you want him back?
- Continuity - with Hellebuyck and Wade Flaherty (+Winnipeg, teammates, etc.)
- He had a strong year the last time he was a back-up for the Jets
- Seems to be well liked, upbeat, encouraging, etc.
If Brossoit and Comrie keep having strong years with the Jets, bomb with other teams, I'd still love to have them back. If Hellebuyck had a say in it, all the better! He's our best player, and the best player in the 2.0 era. If Greg Maddux only wants to pitch to Eddie Perez, then you don't force him to play with Javy Lopez if he's not comfortable with it.
It's not like the Jets have to worry about developing a starting goalie over the next few years, because we still have Hellebuyck for the next 6 seasons.
Kaapo Kahkonen's last 3 seasons (+career stats)
Comrie's last 3 seasons (+career stats)
I don't think Kaapo separates himself enough.
Here are the top games that Comrie played in last year, 6 away games, and not the easiest competition down the stretch.
SJS sucked, and so did he, isolating from January on. Nice finish with NJD, save in the win column.
If we were absolutely forced to pick one of the two as a starting goalie, then Kaapo. Thankfully that's not a situation that we're in. For a back-up for just this year, I'm comfortable with Comrie.
Bender Duster
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Bogo nailed it. They are both capable back ups but Comrie is a known commodity and very good buds with 55, 37 and 44 and that factors in far more than a 0.003 difference in save percentage or some other stat that might factor in for the 15-17 games they’ll play.
nobody imp0rtant
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Yes, thankfully there is absolutely zero chance that Helly could sustain an injury that keeps him out for weeks, or months. I mean, that's just inconceivable, right? Who needs a good backup when your starter is invincible?
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I'd kindly settle for a tall glass of milk.
nobody imp0rtant
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Yeah, ask Vegas how important players being "good buds" is. Ask Vegas how important it is to place loyalty above talent. You know, that team that actually won a Cup without having to rely on a "5 year plan", which here is now going on... how long?
KK may not be the answer, but we know that Comrie isn't.
Buffdog
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I'd kindly settle for a tall glass of milk.
We only need a back-up.Yeah, ask Vegas how important players being "good buds" is. Ask Vegas how important it is to place loyalty above talent. You know, that team that actually won a Cup without having to rely on a "5 year plan", which here is now going on... how long?
KK may not be the answer, but we know that Comrie isn't.
Hellebuyck doesn't have a track record of getting injured. If we need to salvage the season, yes, Comrie isn't the answer, nor is KK (IMO). At that point, the Jets should consider getting someone who's more qualified to be a starting goalie.
Buffdog
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Yeah, but Vegas can ship out a "good bud" and there is a list of guys willing to go there to play to replace himYeah, ask Vegas how important players being "good buds" is. Ask Vegas how important it is to place loyalty above talent. You know, that team that actually won a Cup without having to rely on a "5 year plan", which here is now going on... how long?
KK may not be the answer, but we know that Comrie isn't.
Unfortunately, our quaint little hamlet upon the frozen tundra doesn't quite hold the same appeal as Sin City (for some strange reason)
WolfHouse
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This whole argument is bogus... dillon was great in the room - team loved bross... copp, schmidt, etc...
If the team was sold on comrie at helle request why even sign kakko
Hank Chinaski
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Cherry picking the one season where Comrie played like a legit NHL goalie doesn’t really strengthen the case. Nor does the glue guy argument. You can hide a Thorburn or Hendricks, goalie not so much.
Like I said, hoping like hell that Comrie makes me eat crow, but I’m not hopeful. I feel another Rittich situation where there’s zero confidence in the backup come March and Helle gets run into the ground.
Chevy thought he was getting Kaapo Kakko.
Like I said, hoping like hell that Comrie makes me eat crow, but I’m not hopeful. I feel another Rittich situation where there’s zero confidence in the backup come March and Helle gets run into the ground.
Maybe it was a repeat of the Jeff Finger signing.
Chevy thought he was getting Kaapo Kakko.
Buffdog
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Dillon is 35 and about to decline, plays a position with youth ready to take his role, and is making 4M a year
So should I call your argument a strawman, or just a shitty example?
WolfHouse
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No you should stop cherry picking...
Dillon is a top 4 dman 'about to decline' but not declining yet.. we have kept worse. He was a leader on the team - Schmidt and Copp were well known to be locker room guys and pals of the team. There's a long list of other similar examples.
The team has moved on from or passed on a ton of great locker room guys and friends of Scheif etc...
I'd say you're on to something when you say Flaherty might have picked him - but thats based on past performance... not on being a nice guy. At least I really hope not.
Buffdog
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What did I cherry pick?
It was time to move on from Copp and Schmidt also (as it was with Dillon)
Bender Duster
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Some great guys in the room move on when the Jets can’t match offers they’ll get elsewhere (Dillon, Copp).
Other great guys come here because we can match what they can make elsewhere and they fill a role (Comrie, Hendricks).
Other great guys come here because we can match what they can make elsewhere and they fill a role (Comrie, Hendricks
).You need 2 veteran goalies for the organization. 1 to backup Helly in the NHL and 1 to split duties with Milic on the Moose. DD is likely going to be the starter in Norfolk.
if Helle is injured the likes of Comrie or Kahkonnen are not going to keep the team from tanking. How many teams with star goalies also have a legit 1B backup? Even with Broissort there were lots of doubts about the workload he can handle.
True because Vegas and Winnipeg are equal destinationsYeah, ask Vegas how important players being "good buds" is. Ask Vegas how important it is to place loyalty above talent. You know, that team that actually won a Cup without having to rely on a "5 year plan", which here is now going on... how long?
KK may not be the answer, but we know that Comrie isn't.
How did you do with Hurricane Milton? I don't know how close you were to it but I was thinking about you and @Jetfaninflorida during all that.
Hey! I got lucky - it hit far enough south that we just got the outer bands - hope that Jetfaninflorida did ok!
If Hellebuyck goes down, it doesn't really matter who's backup between Comrie and KK.
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Even then it doesn't add up.
Comrie did have 1 good season backing up Helle so maybe there is something there. But I think it is more likely that that season was just an outlier. OTOH Kahkonen has actually been good in a backup role, except on those really bad Sharks teams he played with. And even there he was better than Comrie has been in all but that 1 good season he had.
