That would be the definition of a panic move though, which makes the value diminish. The Canucks aren't at risk of losing Miller for nothing. Wait till the summer after a few teams crash out in the playoffs and want grit and scoring and they prob pay more. Can't be worse the the rumours so far.
Rumor: Just Kidding! Pettersson and JT Miller Trade Reunion!
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Empoleon8771
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For shits and giggles, let's do a 3-way trade:
Rangers get Miller and Glass
Penguins get Zibanejad and NYR's lottery protected 1st
Canucks get Chytil and Pettersson
Fairly close cap swaps, with the Penguins adding roughly $2 million while the Rangers are saving roughly $2 million. I don't think this would just be the deal, I think there would need to be picks and prospects added on to even out the value. But generally something like this.
Rangers get Miller and Glass
Penguins get Zibanejad and NYR's lottery protected 1st
Canucks get Chytil and Pettersson
Fairly close cap swaps, with the Penguins adding roughly $2 million while the Rangers are saving roughly $2 million. I don't think this would just be the deal, I think there would need to be picks and prospects added on to even out the value. But generally something like this.
BigDaddyLurch
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I said it months ago but i think the quick and easy fix is to see if Lindholm(also has good chemistry with a couple guys and did well with tocchet) would waive to come back as a 2c in a package for Miller
Someone correct me if I'm wrong on this stat line for Pettersson..
Pettersson 15pts in the 10games miller was gone.
So when Pettersson got 1c minutes with better offensive zone starts he was putting up points.
When miller is back he is deployed with less offensive zone starts to make up for millers lack of defense.
Wouldnt it make sense to give Pettersson these better offensive zone starts.. and acquire a more defensive minded 2C like Lindholm +? Seems like the deployment to cover for Millers defense is hurting Pettersson as well.
obviously the lindholm contract isnt the greatest and is taking a hit in Boston as he isnt a true 1C
Someone correct me if I'm wrong on this stat line for Pettersson..
Pettersson 15pts in the 10games miller was gone.
So when Pettersson got 1c minutes with better offensive zone starts he was putting up points.
When miller is back he is deployed with less offensive zone starts to make up for millers lack of defense.
Wouldnt it make sense to give Pettersson these better offensive zone starts.. and acquire a more defensive minded 2C like Lindholm +? Seems like the deployment to cover for Millers defense is hurting Pettersson as well.
obviously the lindholm contract isnt the greatest and is taking a hit in Boston as he isnt a true 1C
Add 2 or 3 more 1sts.
change Krebs to Cozens and remove Rosen or something like that
Do you think that package could get you Makar? Because that's what Hughes is worth.
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It might be tempting, just to get that 1st (and potentially flip it), but agree with the poster who suggested Cozens instead of Krebs, which also gets the cap closer to balanced. Your proposal would transfer ~5.5M in cap from BUF to VAN, so yeah it's probably fair though far from ideal
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Because the Avs are a serious team and their GM isn't currently out in public admitting that the current core is incapable of winning, I don't imagine they are looking to move on from Makar at this point in time
Doug Prishpreed
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Makar also isn't a UFA in 1.5 years with two brothers playing for a team in their home country.
No, he's a UFA in 2.5 years. Hughes brothers also play for a team that likely doesn't have the cap to sign him in 1.5 years. You think NJD GM is going to look at the rising cap and say "I'll sit tight for Quinn and not try to better this team to win a cup."?
Luke will be looking at 8+, they will spend to the cap this offseason. Quinns UFA offseason won't rise 13m+ to sign him, all their big contracts will still be in effect and they aren't going to start buying people out in hopes to sign him.
if Vancouver is competing, Quinn will stay. If they aren't, We will trade him in what will be the biggest trade in the last 15-25 years and rebuild.
The don godfather
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Lindholm got a nice assist last night and probably could have gotten another one if wingers could score. Hes solid.
So, not the same then. Weird.
NJ could both spend to the cap and not tie their own hands for summer '26. And they have to extend Luke either way, so how does that impact the cap going up potentially $15M in the next two off-seasons?
Again, this is fantasy rather than reality. We're looking at a $97M cap next year, and at least $100M the following year. New Jersey is in great cap position to sign a major UFA that summer, Quinn or not.
Sure, if you trade him now with two years of control. But the closer you let him get to UFA, the lower his value will be. That's how it works.
Peter Griffin
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Excellent, glad you’re happy to keep him.
Coach Parker
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Yeah, I don't see that trade at all. Lindholm is going nowhere this year.
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impaaaaaact
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Came back to earth offensively, still blows assignments defensively. He’s big but rarely uses his size. Then got injured for the rest of the season.
There’s a possibility he was playing through something and he still has a lot of value. Trading Barzal just feels a little more like moving around the chairs on the titanic
Coach Parker
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Which isn't a knock against his time in Vancouver but when you sign a long-term contract and move your family, you don't waive it and go back to the old situation, especially the volatility.
I'm sure he was forced to pick sides as well in Vancouver at times and you'd expect if the Bruins were in on either, Zadorov and Lindholm would have Sweeney's ear.
I've given up trying to find a fair trade as no one here knows how either Canuck is going to respond in a new city.
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McDuffz88
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With Hamilton and Palat off the team that's 15 million dollars off the books. More than enough to acquire Quinn without the rising cap.
impaaaaaact
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thanks man. it’s been discussed on the islanders boards for a while and you’ll find exactly one poster who thinks it’s a good idea, and I’m pretty sure that guy is a Dolan because he’s always acting like Barzy f***ed his daughter. We’ll stick with what we got, thanks
They are still on the books in 2026. Would need to pay a lot of dump them, if they even waive. Quinn isn't signing a 1 or 2 year deal to wait for NJD to have the cap. again, you guys don't have any major money coming off the books in the summer of 2026 and this summer will likely spend your cap to the max, and for longer than 1 season.
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