Juraj Slafkovsky - Year Two

[waitin425]

Galchenyuk scored 30 goals, to not call him above average is completely asinine. For his first 7 seasons he was at worst a 3rd liner and at best a 2nd liner, thats above average.

The 30 goals was a great year....but the other warts in his game, just never pushed him above average in hindsight.

I was a huge fan of his, had a few avatars on here for him. So this isn't coming from blind hatred.

We can agree to disagree, but Chuck for me, remains an average player at best, who never realized his potential.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

If average is middle, Chucky was never above the middle. He had potential that was never realized. Probably because he was our version of the scarecrow.

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Badly, badly misused. Therrien was the worst possible coach for him.

 

[BLONG7]

Badly, badly misused. Therrien was the worst possible coach for him.

Therrien was the worst coach....................for many many players.
Wish he had coached the Leafs. Or Bruins.....

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Therrien was the worst coach....................for many many players.
Wish he had coached the Leafs. Or Bruins.....

Bruins are an interesting example. They were probably a goal away from a total tear down. Game 7 against us and we almost pulled it off.

Fortunately we’d prevent them from a cup in 2014.

 

[KevSkillz4]

Seriously when you watch Fantilli and Carlsson, Slaf isn't far away than these guy. I think Slaf is a underrated high end talent, he is a amazing playmaker. Amazing shot but not show that so far, but no doubt, he have the shot of a 30 goal scorer.

Slaf is a star in the making.

 

[CAUFIELD]

Seriously when you watch Fantilli and Carlsson, Slaf isn't far away than these guy. I think Slaf is a underrated high end talent, he is a amazing playmaker. Amazing shot but not show that so far, but no doubt, he have the shot of a 30 goal scorer.

Slaf is a star in the making.

Period

I don’t know who’s #2 or 3, but I know slaf is da 1

 

[KevSkillz4]

Period

I don’t know who’s #2 or 3, but I know slaf is da 1

Maybe 2 and 3 in 2023 are #1 in 2022. But Slaf isn't far away than both. The stats and the watching say that. So yes, I know only #1 and Slaf is a very very good #1 even in a less good draft than 2023. But 2022 looks not so bad, just 2023 is much deep and with Bedard.

 

[Jeune Poulet]

Badly, badly misused. Therrien was the worst possible coach for him.

Therrien is the only coach who ever got good seasons out of this toxic dud.

It went downhill when Therrien left and wasn't there to shelter him anymore.

The HF Habs board is probably the only place left in the world that is oblivious to that situation.

 

[Toene]

Therrien is the only coach who ever got good seasons out of this toxic dud.

It went downhill when Therrien left and wasn't there to shelter him anymore.

The HF Habs board is probably the only place left in the world that is oblivious to that situation.

His best PPG was during the beginning of the 17-18 season with Julien as his coach iirc. I think Galchenyuk was just mega-flawed as a prospect and a person. He peaked early, it happens.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Therrien is the only coach who ever got good seasons out of this toxic dud.

It went downhill when Therrien left and wasn't there to shelter him anymore.

The HF Habs board is probably the only place left in the world that is oblivious to that situation.

Okay.

Let’s just go back to Slaf. Happy to take up Therrien elsewhere.

 

[Kennerback]

Seriously when you watch Fantilli and Carlsson, Slaf isn't far away than these guy. I think Slaf is a underrated high end talent, he is a amazing playmaker. Amazing shot but not show that so far, but no doubt, he have the shot of a 30 goal scorer.

Slaf is a star in the making.

His shot is as fast as Bedard’s. The difference is all about the release.

 

[Dutronc]

His shot is as fast as Bedard’s. The difference is all about the release.

The release is what made Joel Armia what he is and not a top line RW.

Thats why he is so good when he play against weaker D-Core (WC, AHL).

Slaf will get it sooner than later

 

[KevSkillz4]

His shot is as fast as Bedard’s. The difference is all about the release.

The fact that he score "ugly goal" so far, it's nice because the player need to be really good to be on front in net.

Maybe not this year, but next year, I'm confident that he is going to score beauty goals with his great shot. He need to use his shot because he can be a really good goalscorer.

Slaf-Suzuki-Caufield, have all great shot and great passing ability, that's why we can all believe that they are going all PPG's players when MTL will have a better team.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

The fact that he score "ugly goal" so far, it's nice because the player need to be really good to be on front in net.

Maybe not this year, but next year, I'm confident that he is going to score beauty goals with his great shot. He need to use his shot because he can be a really good goalscorer.

Slaf-Suzuki-Caufield, have all great shot and great passing ability, that's why we can all believe that they are going all PPG's players when MTL will have a better team.

Slaf - and Nick - need to shoot a lot more. I don’t get why Suzuki doesn’t fire off more, he’s got a great shot.

Slaf’s a work in progress.

 

[KevSkillz4]

Slaf - and Nick - need to shoot a lot more. I don’t get why Suzuki doesn’t fire off more, he’s got a great shot.

Slaf’s a work in progress.

Agree with you. Suzuki is a 30 goal scorer if he use more his shot more. Looks his goals on PP, he have such a great shot.

So far in his career he is more of a 20-25 goalscorer, but with using his shot more, he can easily be better than.

Yes, Slaf a work in progress. His passing ability, protection of puck and skill are all top notch so far. He really need to put beauty goals for his confident with his scoring instinct. But so far at 19, his progression is amazing. Can't wait to see him in 2 years. A total beast in the making!

 

[Heffyhoof]

Slaf - and Nick - need to shoot a lot more. I don’t get why Suzuki doesn’t fire off more, he’s got a great shot.

Slaf’s a work in progress.

Could be due to playing with the premiere sniper on the team basically since Caufield started in the NHL. Easier to just defer to him and shoot a lot less.

Probably part of the calculation in moving Slaf away from that line is so he doesn't have Caufield to constantly look to pass to.

 

[Kojo]

Stopped reading this forum last year because you guys are so toxic, give the guy a chance he's only 19 years old.

 

[River Meadow]

Stopped reading this forum last year because you guys are so toxic, give the guy a chance he's only 19 years old.

Welcome to the internet, sir.

 

[KevSkillz4]

So far this year, Slaf prove that he worth easily a top 5 selection in 2023 draft. I'd rather have Slaf than Will Smith on my team. So maybe 4th behind Carlsson and Fantilli. So having a top 4-5 selection from a 2023 draft, it's a great 1st overall pick in 2022.

Like I said before, he is not far away from Carlsson and Fantilli. Maybe Slaf is going to have better career than both, who knows?!

Sorry to put that words, but sometimes Craig Button looks like a "retar...", Slaf skill is more than a only 50 points player. He don't have the same skillset of Milan Lucic, he is much more dynamic, much more talented. He is more in Rick Nash//Andrei Svechnikov range of skill, 100%. So far, he show that he have the potential to have that type of impact. I'm 100% confident with that statement.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

With Monahan gone, I hope they put him back on the Suzuki line

 

[Jaaanosik]

With Monahan gone, I hope they put him back on the Suzuki line

He'll center and play wing on his own line simultaneously.
He is that good.

 

[JianYang]

Slaf is lowkey having one of the best development curves we've seen in a long while for one of our young forwards. Guys like Chuck and Gally didn't improve that much from their first season on, Caufield and Suzuki were pretty much what they were from the get-go, the production just took some time to come ( and a new head coach in CC's case) . I don't know if it's all thanks to Adam Nicolas and Co., but it's an impressive result IMO. It's why you have a staff focus on developing tools.

Galchenyuk's goal totals were on a rise in each of his first 4 seasons, climaxing at 30 goals in 2015-2016.

He had especially found a sweet spot on the powerplay, but I think he had improved reasonably well in his first four seasons anyways. Off ice issues added another dimension to his troubles though.

 

[DAChampion]

Galchenyuk's goal totals were on a rise in each of his first 4 seasons, climaxing at 30 goals in 2015-2016.

He had especially found a sweet spot on the powerplay, but I think he had improved reasonably well in his first four seasons anyways. Off ice issues added another dimension to his troubles though.

Galchenyuk's metrics actually peaked in his first season. The only thing that improved is that he was given more PP time.

 

[Sorinth]

Galchenyuk's goal totals were on a rise in each of his first 4 seasons, climaxing at 30 goals in 2015-2016.

He had especially found a sweet spot on the powerplay, but I think he had improved reasonably well in his first four seasons anyways. Off ice issues added another dimension to his troubles though.

Here's his 5 on 5 numbers when adjusting for ice time
12-13: 1.03 goals and 2.85 points per 60 minutes with 12:19 ES per game
13-14: 0.62 goals and 1.4 points per 60 minutes with 14:24 ES per game
14-15: 0.84 goals and 1.8 points per 60 minutes with 16:26 ES per game
15-16: 1.09 goals and 2.07 points per 60 minutes with 16:16 ES per game

Then looking at PP numbers when adjusting for ice time
12-13: 0.0 goals and 0.0 points per 60 minutes with 1:03 of PP time per game
13-14: 1.36 goals and 4.53 points per 60 minutes with 2:02 of PP time per game
14-15: 1.01 goals and 4.05 points per 60 minutes with 2:13 of PP time per game
15-16: 2.57 goals and 4.58 points per 60 minutes with 2:33 of PP time per game

When I look at those numbers I don't see much progress over the first 4 years, after his rookie year he basically spent 3 years just getting back to those rookie numbers.

And it's also worth noting that as his ice time went up it means he played more frequently with the teams better players like Pacioretty. The story was pretty much always the same, he'd get promoted to play with Pacioretty and his scoring would take off, then the line would be broken up for reasons only Therrien knows. So in many ways he wasn't actually progressing as a player over those first 4 years he was just spending more or less time in the top-6.

 

[salwan]

Stopped reading this forum last year because you guys are so toxic, give the guy a chance he's only 19 years old.

for a sec I was like: when did I write this? nice avi bro