Juraj Slafkovsky - Year Two

[River Meadow]

Even though I’m a firm believer in sending him down, I suppose the one risk with him going to the AHL is…what if he doesn’t produce down there either? What if he just looks like any other player? That would be absolutely disastrous for a player with a confidence level that’s already extremely fragile. That could be the final blow, so to speak.

IF that happens,

Maybe that means he's not very good.

In which case the people who pushed to draft him should be held accountable.


That said, I don't think stats are the end all, be all.

I want to see some actual hunger and passion from Slaf, especially if he's not flashing elite skill.....

 

[ReHabs]

Yakupov was 1st in a terrible draft. It’s also worth noting that he started off really well.

Hockey Historians will remember the name Slafkovsky

*Monkey’s Paw Curls*

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Again, if we keep him up, why not try him on the first line? How does it not make sense to play him there? Esp since the spot is open and nobody has worked.

Did Jagr have to earn it or did Pittsburgh just play him with Lemieux? Why would we leave him on a struggling line?

At the very least, play him with Monahan.

 

[ZUKI]

Considering how fragile this management seems to be, Gorton would be scared of taking the blame for picking up his guy. Why not hide in the foxhole and hope hockey fairy sprinkles magical pixie dust over sleeping Juraj. For some reason these miserable tandems rely on each other - remember Bergevin and Therrien?
Everyone thought Marc would surely see how utterly shit Therrien was in his job. BS, he loved his little grinding man.

Slafkovsky had a great tournament against taxi-drivers, pizza delivery guys, shopkeepers and other semi- or quasi-professional players who could never feed their family by playing hockey. In the slow as molasses Liiga, where 40+ Euro League journeymen dominate, he did nothing that should be considered significant. Barely worth a roster spot.

Suddenly Bobrov thinks he's in a sport movie about himself and has the speech of a lifetime with zero substance. Just pompous empty sport phrases that only commentators with multiple concussions would use. Suddenly he's a starter in NHL when he hasn't proved or showed anything. He simply had a good tournament against lifetime beer leaguers.

There wasn't any evidence that he could survive in the NHL. He dangled players who used their sticks to stay upright and months later he plays against the best. He hasn't proved to be worth a top-6 spot in Liiga. We don't know if he's even ready for AHL. And this dumbass management rather crushes him than admits they f***ed up with their plan.

Let me guess...you are a" American TV soap series " scriptor . Say it , i know i am right , you write afternoon soap fictions, where every ones sleep with every ones

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Hockey Historians will remember the name Slafkovsky

*Monkey’s Paw Curls*

Depends on the draft. If the draft sucks then it really doesn’t matter.

 

[River Meadow]

Considering how fragile this management seems to be, Gorton would be scared of taking the blame for picking up his guy. Why not hide in the foxhole and hope hockey fairy sprinkles magical pixie dust over sleeping Juraj. For some reason these miserable tandems rely on each other - remember Bergevin and Therrien?
Everyone thought Marc would surely see how utterly shit Therrien was in his job. BS, he loved his little grinding man.

Slafkovsky had a great tournament against taxi-drivers, pizza delivery guys, shopkeepers and other semi- or quasi-professional players who could never feed their family by playing hockey. In the slow as molasses Liiga, where 40+ Euro League journeymen dominate, he did nothing that should be considered significant. Barely worth a roster spot.

Suddenly Bobrov thinks he's in a sport movie about himself and has the speech of a lifetime with zero substance. Just pompous empty sport phrases that only commentators with multiple concussions would use. Suddenly he's a starter in NHL when he hasn't proved or showed anything. He simply had a good tournament against lifetime beer leaguers.

There wasn't any evidence that he could survive in the NHL. He dangled players who used their sticks to stay upright and months later he plays against the best. He hasn't proved to be worth a top-6 spot in Liiga. We don't know if he's even ready for AHL. And this dumbass management rather crushes him than admits they f***ed up with their plan.

Please post more.

You're funny af.

 

[HuGort]

Andre Tourigny probably should been our head coach. Arizona playing well. Players are developing under him. Cooley Leads rookies in scoring.

Tourigny said you can't develop in NHL. Players can improve in NHL. But player has to be at a certain point first.

 

[River Meadow]

Andre Tourigny probably should been our head coach. Arizona playing well. Players are developing under him. Cooley Leads rookies in scoring.

Tourigny said you can't develop in NHL. Players can improve in NHL. But player has to be at a certain point first.

Don't worry dude,


They're having Slaf watch tape of Matthew Tkachuk.

What better development could you ask for?

 

[ReHabs]

Depends on the draft. If the draft sucks then it really doesn’t matter.

There is no evidence the draft sucked.

Of course it matters if the Habs drafted the next 1OA bust or are majorly impacting a young man’s career with their cockamamie development non-strategy. It matters a great deal.

 

[417]

Andre Tourigny probably should been our head coach. Arizona playing well. Players are developing under him. Cooley Leads rookies in scoring.

Tourigny said you can't develop in NHL. Players can improve in NHL. But player has to be at a certain point first.

So which is it?

 

[Frank Drebin]

Again, if we keep him up, why not try him on the first line? How does it not make sense to play him there? Esp since the spot is open and nobody has worked.

Did Jagr have to earn it or did Pittsburgh just play him with Lemieux? Why would we leave him on a struggling line?

At the very least, play him with Monahan.

We're wondering if he'd make a mediocre ahl player at this point and you think he should be a first line nhler? Lets just think of what kind of message that would send to his teammates. A lot of them want to be first line NHLers too.

Jagr scored 27 goals as an 18 year old fresh off the boat. I hope we stop using those two in the same sentence soon.

 

[OnTheRun]

So which is it?

Depends on which argument you want to make...

It's not like the Yotes 5th OA have 0 point in 9 NHL games this season... Wait, yes he absolutely does have 0p in 9gp. Someone should call Andre.

 

[Johnny Cakes]

I'm going to avoid this thread because it is populated by people trying to prove something I can't put my finger on, something more personal than what is being portrayed as the alleged argument.

It has become the most pathetic thread to read on this site.

Juraj? Is that you, Slaf? Bro, ya gotta admit...you've been trash so far...

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Still blows me away that we took a player 1st overall with no standout skill. If you were so in love with having a big player, just trade down with Detroit and pick up Soderblom in the process.

 

[Jaynki]

You're finding every possible stat to defend Slaf's invisibility. Like Dubois' D+2 bad start.
At the same time you're omitting his 20 goals and 48 points in that season and steadily rising to 61 pts in next season.
Do you really see Slaf rising from the ashes and scoring 20 goals out of nowhere?
I mean, last time dude scored 20 goals in a season when he was 15.

Yes, i expect him to breakout at some point in his career.

I dont think its unreasonable to expect a 19 years old with his skill to eventually breakout.

 

[Jaynki]

I'm not mocking. I just think it's sad.
Wasted 1OA on a kid who needs to relearn everything he learned til now?


He, but the thing is....there is no muscle memory reformatting, it just Hughes selling fog on a presser.
In every organization, Bobrov would have been fired the they coaches say: Hey, we need to start with this kid form scratch since he's useless as he is today. We need to erase his muscle memory.

I think its fair to question if they are doing the right things. They say they have a plan for him and are satisfied with their progress.

I would not extrapolate on the muscle memory thing although it effectively sound strange.

I think asking if they are doing the right things is fair. I think we can question Slaf impact, readyness and also progress.

But on the other hand, what would be faire to everyone involve here would be to give the benefit of the doubt.

That is not a free pass. They will be tributary of their decision. But before reaching into extreme and already concluding things, we also have to give everyone a fair and honest chance. That means more than 10 games into his D+2 even tho i acknowledge all the deception and uglyness out there.

 

[GHJimmy]

Its very much a snake bitten situation right now, this displays the management's criteria

 

[Jaynki]

Well congratulations the situation is no longer fans/local media chatter but league wide humiliation

Arizona twitter last night
The hockey news today

Awesome

Rira bien qui rira le dernier.

 

[ReHabs]

But on the other hand, what would be faire to everyone involve here would be to give the benefit of the doubt.

That was last season’s awful showing.

Goodwill gets burnt through quick when you don’t replenish it. There is zero reason to trust the Habs’ plan with Slafkovsky right now — he’s not shown any tangible growth since his D-0.

 

[Jaynki]

I worry that all of the new publicity around his lack of success will be seriously damaging to his mind in the long run

This is some of the worst handling of a prospect I’ve ever seen I think

Its a possibility.

Another possibility is that this adversity will build in him the resilience needed to live up to his status in our market.

Lets not victimise him.

Lost in all this was the potential to trade down in the last two drafts. You are right.

Weak ass move. Especially since the reward is later ass pick, quantities.

Go with your pick and live with your decision.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

That was last season’s awful showing.

Goodwill gets burnt through quick when you don’t replenish it. There is zero reason to trust the Habs’ plan with Slafkovsky right now — he’s not shown any tangible growth since his D-0.

He actually appears to have gotten significantly worse since then tbh

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Kotkaniemi is hitting his stride in his SIXTH SEASON.

Slafkovsky is in his SECOND SEASON.

Patience is a virtue.

Kotkaniemi has talents that Slaf doesn't.

 

[Jaynki]

That was last season’s awful showing.

Goodwill gets burnt through quick when you don’t replenish it. There is zero reason to trust the Habs’ plan with Slafkovsky right now — he’s not shown any tangible growth since his D-0.

Agree.

There is no bigger red flag than a lack of growth. And we have yet to see it as fans, with Slaf.

I still think giving the protagonist a fair chance involves a bit more patience from us.

It does not mean a free pass. They will be tributary of their decision and this particular hockey decision and what is related will mark their era here.

But we are just way to early to go to conclusion.

At best, we can identify that it is not trending well, but we also have to recognise that we are still in a spot where it could turn on a dime.

Kotkaniemi has talents that Slaf doesn't.

Debatable.

If Hughes that afraid sending him to Laval will bust his confidence. Trade Slaf even up for Lafreniere? At least, you know you have at least a mid-liner with upside.

There is no incentives from Montreal to do this.

Laf seems capped in his upside.

Slaf is not, although he is in the present performing in a way lower level.

 

[417]

Depends on which argument you want to make...

It's not like the Yotes 5th OA have 0 point in 9 NHL games this season... Wait, yes he absolutely does have 0p in 9gp. Someone should call Andre.

Well you definitely can’t, in the same breath mind you, say the NHL is not a developmental league, while acknowledging you're developing a player in the NHL.

Think that's called an oxymoron

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

I wish we could sticky the 2022 draft thread. Lots of gems.

On the main subject

The day They announced that Martin Lapointe was staying and the hiring of Bobrov , you knew it was gonna end like shit.

Lapointe worked with Timmins in the Bergevin era and was completely clueless in a decade.

Bobrov completely massacred the Rangers draft. The only reason why they are good is because Rangers have the easiest job in the world to bring the big ufas.

You mix both, then you get this shit that we have right now.

Then you have Hugues who has no idea what to do. Playing Slaf last season in the nhl was for only 1 reason : Sell tickets.

Then you have the AHL where nobody seems to be learning anything once again.

Then you have MSL playing plugs and overrated veterans or an ahler like RHP who will never be more than a 4th liner on the top line. The only thing RHP did was to f*** us over for better odds at Michkov. MSL aint shit as a coach. He prays that goalies save the day while Monahan Suzuki and Caufield carry everyone else. He doesn't want to sit veterans. Sitting Ylonen or RHP won't do shit.

The entire org is to be blamed about Slaf. At the same time , Slaf isn't showing anything worthwhile to even play him 10minutes a game.


If Reinbacher doesn't work , The "new management" will start getting booed faster than you think this time. There is no Carey Price to save this franchise anymore