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tazsub3 said:
I also have the feeling that Habs management was not very enthusiastic that , some of their younger players go there either.
Maybe they prefer them to have a preset offseason training monitered by our developments teams and not go to the worlds get hurt and miss the offseason .
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I much prefer Slaf staying away working on his skills and strength. Celebrini is a high skilled forward which is a completely different animal with a quicker development arc.
 
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tazsub3 said:
I also have the feeling that Habs management was not very enthusiastic that , some of their younger players go there either.
Maybe they prefer them to have a preset offseason training monitered by our developments teams and not go to the worlds get hurt and miss the offseason .
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Slaf loves Slovakia. That's his country. Played many competitions his national team.

Refused to play at World Championship to boycott the Slovakian federation. There's issues with them. Unprofessional, scandals, etc.
 
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ahmedou said:
Slaf loves Slovakia. That's his country. Played many competitions his national team.

Refused to play at World Championship to boycott the Slovakian federation. There's issues with them. Unprofessional, scandals, etc.
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And the NHL has no issues?
 
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Lafleurs Guy said:
Do you think the Canadiens would have any problem getting back max returns on any of the players they've signed long term right now?

Sign Hutson for as long and cheaply as you can. Same with Demidov. Avoid RFA bids, avoid the drama, mitigate the inflation risk.
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Lol,what is it with so many of you blokes? it's like yall are incapable of answering straight forward questions. Reckon it's not all that unexpected considering though.
 
rik schau said:
Don't bother,just you folks do you folks.lol
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Your comment that the Habs have been rubbish since the mid 90s is mostly true. But that doesn't mean the young players we've assembled now aren't worth locking up long term. This is the best collection of players we've had in a long, long time.

The 2010 group should've been better than it was. MB came in and promptly screwed everything up. That could obviously still happen here. But as of now, the mgmt team has done a really good job putting things together. Just because we were 'rubbish' for a long time doesn't mean we can't be great again. This team was the best team in professional sports for almost a hundred years before we blew everything up.
 
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Lafleurs Guy said:
Your comment that the Habs have been rubbish since the mid 90s is mostly true. But that doesn't mean the young players we've assembled now aren't worth locking up long term. This is the best collection of players we've had in a long, long time.

The 2010 group should've been better than it was. MB came in and promptly screwed everything up. That could obviously still happen here. But as of now, the mgmt team has done a really good job putting things together. Just because we were 'rubbish' for a long time doesn't mean we can't be great again. This team was the best team in professional sports for almost a hundred years before we blew everything up.
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All that matters is selling and they do a great job at that. Building a team to challenge is a very different matter and they haven't gone about it the right way for a long long time and the jury is still out until they prove it otherwise.
 
rik schau said:
All that matters is selling and they do a great job at that. Building a team to challenge is a very different matter and they haven't gone about it the right way for a long long time and the jury is still out until they prove it otherwise.
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Sure. But you shouldn't just measure results. You should measure the actions. You can do everything right and still not get the right result.

This mgmt team has done more than any other in recent memory to achieve the desired outcome. Now we may not get the outcome we wanted but they are at minimum putting us in a position to succeed. We are eons ahead of where we were when MB left.

So when you say we've had decades of incompetence I don't think too many will disagree. But this management group hasn't been here for decades. They've only been here a few years and they've done a good job in that timespan. And locking up players like Slaf to long term affordable contracts is a very smart idea.
 
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rik schau said:
Oi! so more than likely the next off season Montreal will be dishing out, conservatively a minimum of 25 for Hutson and Demidov. How high is the cap going? how much room does Montreal have left with Suzuki, Caulfield, Guhle, Slafskovsky already locked in for a long term? still a 23 man roster right? I reckon the management group are banking on what they are doing is the right way. However which way it goes as long as the fans are pouring in is all that really matters as they have been rubbish since the last millennium and seats and merchandise are still a hot commodity. It's always grand when you own a cash cow isn't it.lol
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25m is not really the conservative estimate, but to actually answer your question 113.5m is what the NHL said the caphit would be when Demidov is no longer on his ELC. And we have both Anderson + Gallagher's contracts coming off the books the answer to how much cap room does MTL have is more then enough to sign those two for 25m + add another big contract.
 
rik schau said:
All that matters is selling and they do a great job at that. Building a team to challenge is a very different matter and they haven't gone about it the right way for a long long time and the jury is still out until they prove it otherwise.
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the habs now have nothing to do with the habs of before, strange you cant see that.
They were a few billion company ran lke a corner depaneur, since MB they being ran like a Multi billion team, with many posts added, successful pro like hughes have been hired and not a few blokes that just played hockey and had a fox hole.

they may succeed or still fail. but one thing i am sure about, they are not run the same way.and thus historicaly saying they did that or not, is not aplicable
 
tazsub3 said:
the habs now have nothing to do with the habs of before, strange you cant see that.
They were a few billion company ran lke a corner depaneur, since MB they being ran like a Multi billion team, with many posts added, successful pro like hughes have been hired and not a few blokes that just played hockey and had a fox hole.

they may succeed or still fail. but one thing i am sure about, they are not run the same way.and thus historicaly saying they did that or not, is not aplicable
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lol,Of course it is, same owner that bought years of less scrutiny by selling rebuild or whatever they are doing, SOP man SOP.
 
Sorinth said:
25m is not really the conservative estimate, but to actually answer your question 113.5m is what the NHL said the caphit would be when Demidov is no longer on his ELC. And we have both Anderson + Gallagher's contracts coming off the books the answer to how much cap room does MTL have is more then enough to sign those two for 25m + add another big contract.
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So not the upcoming season but season after the cap is going to 113?massive jump from 95. Good, might make it more interesting and less predictable.
 
Lafleurs Guy said:
Sure. But you shouldn't just measure results. You should measure the actions. You can do everything right and still not get the right result.

This mgmt team has done more than any other in recent memory to achieve the desired outcome. Now we may not get the outcome we wanted but they are at minimum putting us in a position to succeed. We are eons ahead of where we were when MB left.

So when you say we've had decades of incompetence I don't think too many will disagree. But this management group hasn't been here for decades. They've only been here a few years and they've done a good job in that timespan. And locking up players like Slaf to long term affordable contracts is a very smart idea.
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Look, listen, My kids told me that when internet came around that you could have ongoing long distance relationships but this isn't how I imagined it. This back and forth needs to stop as I'm much too old for you and have been married over 40 years and I am not gay Guy. Anyways this place here is suppose to be about that Slafskovsky chap and as usual goes off track. So for the last time, people think what they want to think and people see what they see and I feel that the extension was premature, but that's how Montreal does things, could work out, maybe it won't, time will tell.
As for Molson & co,, he's like a glorified grifter isn't he. From what I've been told, the results are fantastic, making oodles and oodles of money, that's the primary intent after all. Full house most game nights, selling tons of merchandise and food and beverages. There is a reason the proverb of a fool and their money is soon separated and Molson & co have done a great job of it by marketing and PR that best suits their interests. Had the priority to be build and maintain a contending team year after year it would have played out differently than it has obviously, and that is pretty much that can be said on that subject, so have a ripper of a weekend, G'day.
 
rik schau said:
lol,Of course it is, same owner that bought years of less scrutiny by selling rebuild or whatever they are doing, SOP man SOP.
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if you cant see the difference between a lawyer like kent hughes that built one of the best agencies in the world of hockey and a marc bergevin who only played built muscles and fox hole and happens to be from quebec, then having any form of discussion is futile :)
 
rik schau said:
Look, listen, My kids told me that when internet came around that you could have ongoing long distance relationships but this isn't how I imagined it. This back and forth needs to stop as I'm much too old for you and have been married over 40 years and I am not gay Guy.
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rik schau said:
Anyways this place here is suppose to be about that Slafskovsky chap and as usual goes off track. So for the last time, people think what they want to think and people see what they see and I feel that the extension was premature, but that's how Montreal does things, could work out, maybe it won't, time will tell.
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I think it’ll be a great deal longer term. Lock up your players when they’re young and affordable.
rik schau said:
As for Molson & co,, he's like a glorified grifter isn't he. From what I've been told, the results are fantastic, making oodles and oodles of money, that's the primary intent after all. Full house most game nights, selling tons of merchandise and food and beverages. There is a reason the proverb of a fool and their money is soon separated and Molson & co have done a great job of it by marketing and PR that best suits their interests. Had the priority to be build and maintain a contending team year after year it would have played out differently than it has obviously, and that is pretty much that can be said on that subject, so have a ripper of a weekend, G'day.
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You can rip Molson all you want - especially for hiring and prematurely extending MB - but that has nothing to do with HUGO.

Now for all that other stuff- this is a message board dude. If you don’t want replies, don’t post here.
 
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Lafleurs Guy said:
I’m not sure what you’re going on about but this regime is light years different than the last - same owner or not.

MB was the idiot who decided to bridge Subban. Remember that fiasco?
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Maybe he is stuck in da fox hole and can’t see what’s going on ?
 
With Suzuki and Caufield already proving their high impact. Demidov and Hutson will likely continue to prove they are star//superstar type of players... that's put less pressure to Slafkovsky.

That's why, I'm very confident about to see Slafkovsky to become a dominate player.
 
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tazsub3 said:
if you cant see the difference between a lawyer like kent hughes that built one of the best agencies in the world of hockey and a marc bergevin who only played built muscles and fox hole and happens to be from quebec, then having any form of discussion is futile :)
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Hughes is more competent imo, but this is revisionnist history : MB was an up-and-coming manager from one of the top organization in the league (2010s Blackhawks). He was definitely worth a try.
 
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