Player Discussion Juraj Slafkovsky Discussion

[red devil]

 

[River Meadow]

It's okay, he's gonna have more than enough money he will know what to do with very soon.

 

[Skip Bayless]

This mfer works at the cemetery

 

[Kojo]

My criticisms of him have definitely not gone away but at least the way he ended the season he earned his place on the first line at least for the playoff road/until Demidov shows he's ready more.

Not sure he'll earn that contract but as a complimentary player he does have a unique skillset.

Nothing indicates that Slafkovsky will be a complimentary player. Please stop.

 

[Rapala]

I can't like anymore but you've been on fire lately great post.
His willingness to improve and be molded into the best player he can be is a big difference from guys like KK or Chucky
I can see Slaf wearing an A one day.
Love his attitude.
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LOL Slaff scared me when he jumped the scrum after the second Guhle goal.
Enthusiasm is not one of his weaknesses.

 

[Rapala]

Price is probably the greatest goaltender of all-time, at the very least of his generation.

Slaf is a 2nd line winger.

Holy moly.

Calling him a second line winger is a bit ingenuous.
Slaf is top six and will play where he best fits in that mix.
We've heard the same arguments for Suzuki and Caufield.
Slaf could become a second line player as early as next season but he would be a welcomed addition to the first line of many teams in this league. The sum of the parts make up the whole and we don't have a better fit at this point. I mean if the stats tell the story nor do very many teams in this league.
We made the playoffs off the back of one line and Lane Hutson.
The current members on that line are all first line players.

 

[cphabs]

I’ll take 6’3 225lb version of Mike Keane at 1st overall any day of the week and twice on Tuesdays…

 

[ahmedou]

SLAF PLAYOFFS BEARDOU

 

[Erika]

Price is probably the greatest goaltender of all-time, at the very least of his generation.

Slaf is a 2nd line winger.

Holy moly.

2nd line winger ? Haahha. Your analysis of Slafkovsky is so off, it's so wrong and comical.

He's already a low end 1st line winger at 21 years old.

There's 64 total 1st line wingers in this league. I don't believe that there's more than 50 wingers better than Slafkovsky let alone 64. So that qualifies him a first line winger pretty convinsingly.

Is he in the top 30 ? probably not right now, but top 50 is very debatable and surefire top 64 imo.

He has the potential to be in the top 20 wingers in the NHL very easily. And that will start in 2-3 years and with a strong possibiliy of reaching top 10 wingers in his peak years, mark my words.

Next year I can see him in the top 40 wingers if he keeps his progress rate.

You are delusional and just hate Slaf for the sake of hating.

 

[Mrb1p]

2nd line winger ? Haahha. You analysis is so off, it's comical.

He's already a low end 1st line winger at 21 years old.

There's 64 total 1st line wingers in this league. I don't believe that there's more than 50 wingers better than Slafkovsky let alone 64. So that qualifies him a first line winger pretty convinsingly.

Is he in the top 30 ? probably not eight now, but top 50 is very debatable and surefire top 64 imo.

He has the potential to be in the top 20 wingers in the NHL very easily. And that will be begin in 2-3 years and with a strong possibiliy of reaching top 10 wingers in his peek years, mark my words.

Next year I can see him in the top 40 wingers if he keeps his progress rate.

You are delusional and just hate Slaf for the sake of hating.

Theres not 64 2nd line wingers, San Jose, Chicago and other bottom feeders dont count, were comparing ourselves to the cream of the crop.

Hes a 50 points player, right now, hes a 2nd liner. Hes the #111 ranked forward for scoring right now, 119th for PPG with more than 35 games.

He brings other things than scoring, sure, but not enough to cover a 30-40 spot gap.

I did the exercise earlier this year for Cole and Slaf, they are both in the bottom of the league when you compare wingers. Our wingers are basically bottom 10 in the NHL. Teams have up to 4 wingers better than Slaf, think of Buffalo.

 

[Artaud]

Price is probably the greatest goaltender of all-time, at the very least of his generation.

Slaf is a 2nd line winger.

Holy moly.

Love Price, but he's not even in the top 3 of all-time for the Habs and it's not much of a debate for anyone who knows this team's history.

Besides, the point is that in 2010, Halak clearly outplayed Price and a huge contingent of the fanbase was adamant about keeping him, as Price was far from a Vezina guy back then. Turns out, they were wrong and just lacked patience.

And patience might pay off too in the case of a 20 year old second liner who's built like the Hulk. He's got lots of things to improve and might never be a high end scorer, but listening to you we'd keep drafting and signing smurfs just because they can put up points.

No more Gionta's and Desharnais. We've yearned for big bodies up front, let's embrace the Slafsquatch.

 

[Mrb1p]

Love Price, but he's not even in the top 3 of all-time for the Habs and it's not much of a debate for anyone who knows this team's history.

Besides, the point is that in 2010, Halak clearly outplayed Price and a huge contingent of the fanbase was adamant about keeping him, as Price was far from a Vezina guy back then. Turns out, they were wrong and just lacked patience.

And patience might pay off too in the case of a 20 year old second liner who's built like the Hulk. He's got lots of things to improve and might never be a high end scorer, but listening to you we'd keep drafting and signing smurfs just because they can put up points.

No more Gionta's and Desharnais. We've yearned for big bodies up front, let's embrace the Slafsquatch.

Lmao.

Price is the most talented goaltender of all-time and has the 2nd most dominant peak of all time after Hasek.

Cooley isnt Desharnais, what a dumb argument. Maybe we shouldve drafted someone else than Hutson, too?

I love size and truculence, by the way.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

Lmao.

Price is the most talented goaltender of all-time and has the 2nd most dominant peak of all time after Hasek.

Cooley isnt Desharnais, what a dumb argument. Maybe we shouldve drafted someone else than Hutson, too?

I love size and truculence, by the way.

...amigo, we all love Price, but that's going a bit far...pity very few actually remember how incredible Dryden was...

 

[Mrb1p]

...amigo, we all love Price, but that's going a bit far...pity very few actually remember how incredible Dryden was...

Dryden didnt have Desharnais as his #1C.

 

[Rapala]

Even so.
Conn Smythe Calder Vezina Vezina Vezina Vezina Vezina Retirement.
6 Stanley Cups.
Add in his International play and the most intriguing club match ever CCCP vs Habs.
Nothing comes close to touching this NOTHING.
Pretending that it was all about the players in front of him is laughable.
I've seen way too many dominant teams lose because of poor goaltending.
No Dryden no six cups end of story.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Even so.
Conn Smythe Calder Vezina Vezina Vezina Vezina Vezina Retirement.
6 Stanley Cups.
Add in his International play and the most intriguing club match ever CCCP vs Habs.
Nothing comes close to touching this NOTHING.
Pretending that it was all about the players in front of him is laughable.
I've seen way too many dominant teams lose because of poor goaltending.
No Dryden no six cups end of story.

Carey Price simply did not have the opportunity to win the cups those other goalies did. He won't go down in history as having as great a career but he was an incredible netminder. Give him the teams others have and he's the one with the cups.

All that being said, who's better or whatever can be argued in another thread. Suffice it to say that Price is a HOFer and everyone can agree on that.

 

[DemidovSZN]

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[Artaud]

Lmao.

Price is the most talented goaltender of all-time and has the 2nd most dominant peak of all time after Hasek.

Cooley isnt Desharnais, what a dumb argument. Maybe we shouldve drafted someone else than Hutson, too?

I love size and truculence, by the way.

You introduce such an absurd statement by saying Lmao (period) for emphasis of your confidence in this shitty take.

We're you around back when Jacques Plante played? Did you go back and look at Roy's 1986 cup run? You base your opinion on nothing but recency bias and ignorance.

The same can be said of your take on Slaf to some extent.

 

[Sorinth]

Slaf comes in at 51st in terms of points among wingers (NHL.com label which isn't always accurate), and it doesn't change much if going by ppg with min 50 games played.

So yeah he's a low end 1st line winger just in terms of offence. His D game is pretty average for a winger, though I do believe there's a ton of potential growth in that department, but for now it probably doesn't move him up or down the rankings much. And obviously his size adds value that would move him up the rankings but by how much is quite subjective. I'll note though that he's 17th in the league for hits by wingers, and obviously most above him are your 3rd/4th line crash and bang players, at a quick glance there's only Tkachuk and Wilson who have both more points and more hits.

Now it's worth mentioning the gap between low end 1st and high end 2nd has a lot of variability in it from year to year, and obviously when talking about building a contending team it's generally not good enough for your 2nd best winger to be a low end 1st liner. Good news though is that with Demidov he'll likely be the 3rd best winger on the team very soon, and a low end 1st liner as your 3rd best winger is what you expect/want from a contender.

 

[Kojo]

This is a thread about goaltenders now?

 

[Rapala]

This is a thread about goaltenders now?

Yeah and I vote for Slaf as our emergency third I like his size.

 

[Heffyhoof]

what the hell are you talking about dude

He's preforming what's called 'projection'.

 

[Heffyhoof]

Fascinating read to see people glazing other team's young players and getting super angry and defensive when anybody says anything ill of them, all while crafting false narratives to insult a player of the team they claim to cheer for.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Slaf comes in at 51st in terms of points among wingers (NHL.com label which isn't always accurate), and it doesn't change much if going by ppg with min 50 games played.

So yeah he's a low end 1st line winger just in terms of offence. His D game is pretty average for a winger, though I do believe there's a ton of potential growth in that department, but for now it probably doesn't move him up or down the rankings much. And obviously his size adds value that would move him up the rankings but by how much is quite subjective. I'll note though that he's 17th in the league for hits by wingers, and obviously most above him are your 3rd/4th line crash and bang players, at a quick glance there's only Tkachuk and Wilson who have both more points and more hits.

Now it's worth mentioning the gap between low end 1st and high end 2nd has a lot of variability in it from year to year, and obviously when talking about building a contending team it's generally not good enough for your 2nd best winger to be a low end 1st liner. Good news though is that with Demidov he'll likely be the 3rd best winger on the team very soon, and a low end 1st liner as your 3rd best winger is what you expect/want from a contender.

He’s going to be really good a few years from now. He’s still so young.

 

[Jaaanosik]

You and ReHabs are getting boring with your anti Slafkovsky agenda and propaganda. Slafkovsky was by far the best Habs player yesterday. Without him, the Habs doesn't clinch and the Jackets gets in the playoffs by humiliating the Islanders tonight. That's a fact like it or not.

Also, on draft day, the choice was always between Slafkovsky and Wright. Cooley wasn't really an option if I can remember. I don't get why people come up with Cooley, but he was never in the equation... maybe a few fans wanted him but that's it.

It appears they have fun and competition who can bait more people.
They are enjoying themselves.