Player Discussion Juraj Slafkovsky discussion

[Victoire HuGo]

Slaf will be considered a bust if the Habs have to wait until 2032 for him to be productive.

When a team drafts first overall, they're not picking the player so that he contributes in the very distant future.

2032 is very far away. By that point Suzuki, Caulfield, and Guhle might all be retired, President Vance will be running for re-election, my youngest will be in third grade, we might have Mars colonies, and my body mas index might have reached triple digits. We shouldn't have to wait that long.

Depends on what is your expectation is when you say productive. If being productive is 60 points, I'll bet money that it won't take until 2032. But it will take until 2032 to determine if he was the best player of that draft.

FTR, Wheeler as late as it took him to breakthrough is 3rd in scoring for that draft class behind two future HHOFers.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Depends on his trade value, and whether or not he keeps flat lining.

Would you actively shop him now?

 

[DAChampion]

FTR, Wheeler as late as it took him to breakthrough is 3rd in scoring for that draft class behind two future HHOFers.

Which doesn't help the team that drafted him.

Would you actively shop him now?

Depends on the estimated trade value.

 

[austin316]

He would he so much more effective if he was at least a threat to shoot the puck. I don’t know why he refuses to shoot the puck.

TSN was showing a stat yesterday where over the first 173 games of their career, Jack Hughes had 200 more shots than Slaf.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Depends on the estimated trade value.

Would you be shopping him?

 

[the valiant effort]

I just can’t fathom being so enamoured with any of the other top picks in 2022 that I’m going to deal Slaf after 173 GP.

Let’s send Guhle away for some sweet, sweet Kakko

 

[CHwest]

So,

You think they should trade him?

Before trading him the management and coaching team should sit him down and demand more. 2 hour meeting with tape of his short comings, it's mostly lack of effort anyway and explain we need more, not the points but the effort, if not you will slide down the line up and get bag skated until you get good and pissed, from there it is your choice, put out more or ask for a trade, dismissed.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Laine has some good moves but it always ends with him losing or giving the puck away… he looks a lot like Dach did at the start of the year

 

[DAChampion]

Would you be shopping him?

Depends on the estimated trade value.

"Actively shopping" is not a category.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Depends on the estimated trade value.

No… that’s different. If someone comes to you offering McDavid and you take it everyone will agree. I’m not asking what you think his value is.

"Actively shopping" is not a category.

Right, it’s an action. And I’m asking if you’d be taking this action now. Would you actively shop him?

It’s not a gotcha question man. Have you given up on this guy? Do you think we should start looking around?

 

[DAChampion]

@Victoire HuGo I want to take back my jokes about Wheeler.

2004 was a weak draft. One can argue that Krejci, Green, or Radulov would have been the right pick, but that's revisionism.

 

[Heffyhoof]

Nice to see Slaf away from Suzuki and Caufield. Dvo and Gally might not be the best, but at least now there are three players that work hard on Slaf's line instead of one.

 

[austin316]

Slaf much more engaged today

 

[Ozmodiar]

but the only left hand shooting option

Yes, but it doesn’t elevate him above the other 3 as an option.

 

[Monsieur Miz]

Leafs can play without Matthews, Wild can play without Kaprizov, Tampa can play without Kucherov... but we can't play without Emil Heineman.

 

[Kennerback]

Leafs can play without Matthews, Wild can play without Kaprizov, Tampa can play without Kucherov... but we can't play without Emil Heineman.

We're an OK team if we don't have a single injury. If we start losing some players and others get banged up, we're done. Other teams can make due, we can't.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

Leafs can play without Matthews, Wild can play without Kaprizov, Tampa can play without Kucherov... but we can't play without Emil Heineman.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Leafs can play without Matthews, Wild can play without Kaprizov, Tampa can play without Kucherov... but we can't play without Emil Heineman.

We also couldn’t play with him for the majority of the year lol

 

[Victoire HuGo]

Leafs can play without Matthews, Wild can play without Kaprizov, Tampa can play without Kucherov... but we can't play without Emil Heineman.

Hey Emil is not Heineman...

Okay I'll show myself out

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

Hey Emil is not Heineman...

Okay I'll show myself out

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

It took Slaf to be sent to the fourth line to do something. Wow impressive

 

[overlords]

Leafs can play without Matthews, Wild can play without Kaprizov, Tampa can play without Kucherov... but we can't play without Emil Heineman.

We're playing without Demi if that makes you feel better

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

It took Slaf to be sent to the fourth line to do something. Wow impressive

...sometimes a kick in the arse is MUCH BETTER than a pat on the back...

 

[DAChampion]

No… that’s different. If someone comes to you offering McDavid and you take it everyone will agree. I’m not asking what you think his value is.

Right, it’s an action. And I’m asking if you’d be taking this action now. Would you actively shop him?

It’s not a gotcha question man. Have you given up on this guy? Do you think we should start looking around?

I'm not getting the abstraction. Do GMs have a group chat on WhatsApp where Hughes can say "I'm selling Slaf to the highest bidder !" I'm not sure if it's that simple and if it were the effect of human psychology would lower his value.

I think I'd offer Slaf in a trade if negotiations were advanced for a great targeted player, like Petersson.

 

[RationalExpectations]

Sure appears he’s going the same way as Galchenyuk and KK.

Add the great contract to that. On the other hand, it s way too early to know what he will be in the end.