WC: Jukka Jalonen Finland (2019-2022)
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One little mistake: the silver tournament was in 2021. The 2020 edition was skipped due to COVID.
FinPanda
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Its interesting how many players from that 2019 have played in the NHL and have been decent. Maybe there was a reason they won.
IceHockeyDude
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I don't think any coach come even close. At this level, the best coach ever on international level.
Ever heard of Viktor Tikhonov? Still few championship to go.
Those soviet teams had players so good compared to their peers that they wouldn’t have even needed a coach and they still would have won most of those championships.
Jalonen has won Gold medals with complete scrubs.
Winning a hockey championship is not about how many NHL players you have in total. And it's not about what happened in the past.
You could have 500 players in the NHL and if they all want to come and participate in the next tournament,
this does not help you to win a tournament since there are only 22 skater +3 goalie spots.
You have to build a TEAM - but that is not enough - and a TEAM is not a roster of players that perhaps will not gel with eachother - e g SWE had a 'dream roster' 2002 best-on-best Olympics - but lost vs a BLR team.
So - the TEAM needs to be put together in a way that they all give their maximum effort - otherwise you'll lose like that stacked SWE lost to the FIN noname-team 2019.
You could have 500 players in the NHL and if they all want to come and participate in the next tournament,
this does not help you to win a tournament since there are only 22 skater +3 goalie spots.
You have to build a TEAM - but that is not enough - and a TEAM is not a roster of players that perhaps will not gel with eachother - e g SWE had a 'dream roster' 2002 best-on-best Olympics - but lost vs a BLR team.
So - the TEAM needs to be put together in a way that they all give their maximum effort - otherwise you'll lose like that stacked SWE lost to the FIN noname-team 2019.
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Regardless of whether there's someone above Jalonen or not in "the greatest" category, his place is definitely in the IIHF Hall of Fame. They've inducted coaches (as "builders") with lesser merits.
Tikhonov's success is quite skewed by the fact that world competition was weaker then than it is today and what Jalonen has to resist. Therefore I do not set Tikhonov above Jalonen.
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FinPanda
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Take team full of grinders
I think he just picks the team full of players who are playing for the team and everyone has their position and their role. Some players were picked because of their defensive skills.. some were picked because of their PK ability. Also he is not overrating NHL players if we have similar player in Europe. NHL*er needs to actually bring something for the team, so they need to be a big upgrade over someone.
Eye of Ra
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Why dont you bring up that stacked czechia lost to germany in 1996 world cup, 7-1 to germany? or that nhl stacked russia and canada lost to finland in 2019 aswell?
Eye of Ra
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how about 5-0 to 5-6? or soviet losing to usa in 1980 olympics? all teams hade some chokes.
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Eye of Ra
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You brought up Sweden chokes.this is a thread about J Jalonen type of great wins - not about chokes
Finland was good even back then, no shame losing to Finland.
You could still post a pic of that that hat that you would of had to consume in case SWE would of made it to the semifinals - we all just would love to see that hatthis is a thread about J Jalonen type of great wins - not about chokes
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