The rumours that he's playing hurt maybe explains some of it, but then if he' so hurt that he can't play right then maybe he shouldn't be playing at all. Unless they're thinking that even a 50% Miller is better than the depth behind him, but even if that were true on the ice (debatable) the circus off the ice would seem to make it a net negative.
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The rumours that he's playing hurt maybe explains some of it, but then if he' so hurt that he can't play right then maybe he shouldn't be playing at all. Unless they're thinking that even a 50% Miller is better than the depth behind him, but even if that were true on the ice (debatable) the circus off the ice would seem to make it a net negative.
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IMO, I don't think anything is hurt other than his confidence. He just looks like a guy who is feeling the pressure and can't get out of his own way and doesn't have the mental makeup to get out of it right now. I think he's a guy who "feels" the game and feeds off energy and right now he's so frustrated he can't do anything that seems right and keeps digging himself deeper.
Well, I hope that's not the takeaway. Lol. I meant moreso that we can't really expect more from Myers. But we have seen, and should be able to expect, more from Miller.
Myers is what he is. Miller is a mercurial b.
PuckMunchkin
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I think Miller is more intuitive than a thinker on the ice.
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Tocchet has said several times Miller is not hurt..........this is a mental thing...........his mind is clearly not focused.........
Sounds like he's as good as gone...........not sure if the damage is too great this year but it's starting to feel like that............
Sounds like he's as good as gone...........not sure if the damage is too great this year but it's starting to feel like that............
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I don't love the idea of trading him mid-season unless the value is clearly there.
Mercer and Nemec is a deal that I would do.
If the Devils are insisting it only be Nemec and a 2026 1st, I'd be less inclined to move him mid-season.
Mercer and Nemec is a deal that I would do.
If the Devils are insisting it only be Nemec and a 2026 1st, I'd be less inclined to move him mid-season.
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Alvin and the Chipmunks come in, say playing hard and a certain style is whats needed. They trade horvat since well no one under his watch played hard enough. The fire Bruce cause heck there was a drop in play under his watch.
Now the defense was made like garbage besides huggy, the player who gets yelled at for being lazy is staying, all the players who had good years have sucked Hoggy,Josh,Miller,Petey,Demmer .. wut do?
This collaspe IMHO is all due to a a head coach and system that wants defense and forchecking. We have Travis green 2.0 and on top of that the Chief went from Michelin star to franchise food truck this year.
I WANT TO BELEIVE, so if this trade happens what do we get? A heap of cap space and a group of younf talent that maybe becomes the next core ? Im ok with that. A really good player back and cap space, Im not so inclined to want but I can live with it. If we get a soild D Man on a decent contract, and not much else im like meh always next few years. If we get scraps, no good young players or D help Ill hate it for a LONG TIME!
Now the defense was made like garbage besides huggy, the player who gets yelled at for being lazy is staying, all the players who had good years have sucked Hoggy,Josh,Miller,Petey,Demmer .. wut do?
This collaspe IMHO is all due to a a head coach and system that wants defense and forchecking. We have Travis green 2.0 and on top of that the Chief went from Michelin star to franchise food truck this year.
I WANT TO BELEIVE, so if this trade happens what do we get? A heap of cap space and a group of younf talent that maybe becomes the next core ? Im ok with that. A really good player back and cap space, Im not so inclined to want but I can live with it. If we get a soild D Man on a decent contract, and not much else im like meh always next few years. If we get scraps, no good young players or D help Ill hate it for a LONG TIME!
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We probably should have traded both of them, so I guess we're at that point anyway.
But yes, keeping Miller over Horvat was always a curious move.
Yeah and they said EP wasn't injured either. Their comments on injures mean nothing
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What system and coach don't want defense and forechecking?
Yeah, I've noticed a few instances where he suddenly completely stops using an arm and then hightails it to the bench at first opportunity.
Reminder that when he plays hard (like he's done 90% of his time here including every playoff game) he's one of the best forwards in the league. Understand the age factor and don't like his body language the last handful of games, but wish we could say that about Pettersson...
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the beauty of miller to nj is when hughes hits free agency he’s going to nope right in his brothers’ faces when they try to recruit him
And that is exactly why trading JT would be a massive mistake.
JT is one of the only players in the league that can keep a lid on McDrai. News flash, those guys aren't going anywhere. All playoff roads lead to them. There isn't another player on this team that occupies a seconds thought in those guys head. They are incredibly talented, physical, moody and dirty SOB's.
They will break wrists, and cross check faces, and our other center options just aren't cut out for that.
Losing JT would be worse than losing Tanev, which was another popular move on this dumbass sub.
JT is one of the only players in the league that can keep a lid on McDrai. News flash, those guys aren't going anywhere. All playoff roads lead to them. There isn't another player on this team that occupies a seconds thought in those guys head. They are incredibly talented, physical, moody and dirty SOB's.
They will break wrists, and cross check faces, and our other center options just aren't cut out for that.
Losing JT would be worse than losing Tanev, which was another popular move on this dumbass sub.
Can't say JTFM doesn't rise to the challenge, at least occasionally. Really hope we can figure it out and keep him.
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Sure, but offensively he's probably our most effective forward. I was at the game and it was pretty much all him and Garland.
Petey's two way game is nice but that's not what we're paying him $11.6M for.
Boeser rarely gets to the net now, he's so behind, he might be mistaken for a D in the offensive zone.
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This regime's opinions on player injuries are worth less than toilet paper.
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Letting Tanev go was a popular move on this sub? Lol, Benning got cooked for doing it. Wild statement.
It's an interesting thing to me that while Pettersson has conveyed to management that he wants to stay, Miller has not (per Friedman). Easy thing to do. Just go to management and say you'll fall in line. Continue to push in the same direction. Instead, we hear about him and his agent talking with other teams...
He doesn't want to be here.
Fun thing about the internet, is the receipts are all there. Moving on from Tanev was absolutely a popular sentiment around here.
As was trading JT 2 & 3 years ago, as was EP being MVP and next captain over Hughes, as was the prediction of missing the playoffs last year.
This place is almost as Bedarded as reddit.
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And yet you have 6,056 posts here...
Benning was called out for "running out of time" (and cap) to re-sign Tanev and Toffoli. The receipts are there, yes, and I would be willing to see if your statement holds on that account.
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We barely have enough capspace just to maintain this roster if we want to bring back Markstrom and Tanev, let alone Stetcher.
BRUTALBoeser's agent was on the radio this morning...said it was a done deal.
Surprised it's not confirmed yet
Should be 7 years at that hit. I thought Benning had done good with some Free Agent (not UFA) signings like Tanev and Horvat. If this is true, then NO GOOD
Benning had done good with some Free Agent (not UFA) signings like Tanev and Horvat.
Player Discussion Post in thread 'Brock Boeser | Still Unsigned'
Keep Tanev, Edler and Hutton.
I'd resign him and roll with a top 6 of Edler, Tanev, Hutton, Stecher, Gudbranson and Juolevi.
Player Discussion Post in thread 'Chris Tanev, Pt. II'
Tanev is the engine and core of the team. Backbone of the defence.
Any thoughts on Miller choosing to entertain a trade himself instead of reiterating his commitment to the team?
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A lot of those posts were used to spread the word of how important Tanev was to this team, while many saw him as an aging, injury prone, 1 dimensional player.
Sure Benning got heat, after the fact, and increasingly more as it aged poorer and poorer. In the seasons prior though... the idea of a Tanev extension was met with plenty of daggers.
As far as JT goes, he chose to stay, for a $ and term that a team in his home country could have matched or beat. He negotiated the right to choose his destination should he want to leave, or be asked to. Until that time, if it ever comes, he's ours.
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