Player Discussion JT Miller Thread

geebster

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Didnt really get to see if Miller had any gas in the tank in OT but he looked good on the PP late in the third. His main issue has been he fades as games go (which is why I keep mentioning conditioning being a likely issue), so seems like thats getting better. Body language still is meh, but no one should be complaining after a 4 point night from him.

Hope to see him continue to play hard and produce and cover his defensive assignments consistently. Still hard against trading him or Petey though.
 

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He’s now 2nd in team scoring and PPG for the season.

Pretty solid good for missing 10 games.

Hopefully this gets him going. Must’ve felt nice to see those goals go in.
 

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Since joining the team, JT has alternated new career highs, with seasons that are pretty flat in the 1st half, then a resurgence in the 2nd.

Stay tuned for more Miller Time.
 

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Since joining the team, JT has alternated new career highs, with seasons that are pretty flat in the 1st half, then a resurgence in the 2nd.

Stay tuned for more Miller Time.
Its not about production for me. Hes a guy that used to be wildly inconsistent with his effort level. He obviously cared but he would just give up on plays or late in games, would be mopey and not do his line changes etc. That changed with Tocchet where he became an EVERY GAME, EVERY SHIFT reliable guy. This year hes been back to moping and giving up at random times, especially late in games and that cant continue. Even if he produces he cant be doing that, no excuses.

Today he was looking mostly like himself from last season, saw him actually take defensive assignments in the third, got in lanes etc. Been hoping that him giving up on plays had to do with getting gassed and not mentality etc, so maybe we are about to see him back now that his conditioning caught up? One can hope.
 

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Its not about production for me. Hes a guy that used to be wildly inconsistent with his effort level. He obviously cared but he would just give up on plays or late in games, would be mopey and not do his line changes etc. That changed with Tocchet where he became an EVERY GAME, EVERY SHIFT reliable guy. This year hes been back to moping and giving up at random times, especially late in games and that cant continue. Even if he produces he cant be doing that, no excuses.

Today he was looking mostly like himself from last season, saw him actually take defensive assignments in the third, got in lanes etc. Been hoping that him giving up on plays had to do with getting gassed and not mentality etc, so maybe we are about to see him back now that his conditioning caught up? One can hope.
But it didn't change with Tocchet, as we are seeing the same pattern play out. Beast mode for a season, then a rather disengaged, while still productive half season, and back to beast mode.

A lot of people seem to misremember the 21-22 season. Which in many ways, was Millers best. The Boudreau year wasn't some pond hockey team like it was early 22-23. That was a team that won a lot of close games. They relied on goaltending making big saves, but had a great counter, and were overall stingy. JT wasn't some cherry picker, he was great all around. Didn't matter that his linemates, or the team as a whole wasn't scoring. He had a McDavidesque highlight reel package that year, and a lot of them came against good players/teams, at key moments. Every win mattered, as they stayed in race until pretty deep in the season.

I get it's frustrating at times watching him play so lax, but its always been a give and take. If he was any more consistently great, he'd be knocking on the Mackinnon and Drai tier. He was brought in relatively cheap, as a supplement to the young core, and ended up being our best forward, and even player some years.
 
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VanJack

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I've sort of resigned myself to the likelihood of Miller being traded. But if they do trade him, it probably means they're writing off the season.

Because I just don't see how they could ever get anything back of comparable value.....likely second or even third liners; picks or prospects......nothing that's likely going to help them win 'today'.
 

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