JT Miller shutdown blockbuster trade to Colorado

[S E P H]

If they got TJ Oshie would they win the draft lottery?

If you could spell Taylor Hall with TJ Oshie, then sure!

 

[Breakers]

sounds personal.


He he is great player. What is so bad about him.

He doesn’t look in the mirror in regards to his criticisms of others play

 

[Machinehead]

To go to the Rangers. What a moron.

 

[Unbiased Fan]

...it wouldn't; Landeskog would jump in and tool on Miller...

If he’s a real leader he’d meet deep in the woods 1 on 1

 

[NOTENOUGHRYJOTHINGS]

If it came down to a street fight I’d put my money on miller assuming they met up 1 v 1 one to settle the beef


If it came down to a street fight I’d put my money on miller assuming they met up 1 v 1 one to settle the beef

Miller is bigger and stronger. Also he fights his own battles.

MacGinnon is stronger at his skating stride but that's not gonna save him.

Miller wins easily.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Miller is one of the fee players in the league that could handle Nate. Miller’s wgo is probably bigger than Nates!

 

[Hasbro]

Thank You JT!

Miller is bigger and stronger. Also he fights his own battles.

MacGinnon is stronger at his skating stride but that's not gonna save him.

Miller wins easily.

Brewer versus Bruce Lee?

 

[Nogatco Rd]

Miller is one of the fee players in the league that could handle Nate. Miller’s wgo is probably bigger than Nates!

Not how that usually works out, in my experience

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

If he’s a real leader he’d meet deep in the woods 1 on 1

 

[DrunkTurtle]

The Avs desperately need a #2C

If they got Miller + Necas the offense would be set.

 

[Nogatco Rd]

If he’s a real leader he’d meet deep in the woods 1 on 1

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That was a 2 on 1 IIRC

 

[Russian_fanatic]

I'm guessing Mittelstadt + 1st + B level prospect.

Same framework at the Rangers deal

 

[lawrence]

JT Miller with Mackinnon would be something.

 

[Breakfast of Champs]

The Aves lost the lottery twice in a row while having the best odds.

Could have had Jack Hughes. Sucks to be them. Needed a TJ instead of a JT.

Losing that was the best thing , unless you think they would've went for Makar at 1

 

[Tommy Shelby]

Miller is one of the fee players in the league that could handle Nate. Miller’s wgo is probably bigger than Nates!

Ah yes, Nathan MacKinnon and his notorious ego causing him to have public issues with *checks notes* zero of his teammates.

Not sure where that narrative has sprouted from, but MacK is one of the most team-first guys out there, and just because he's super talented and works his ass off, doesn't mean he has this huge ego.

The guy absolutely hates winning individual awards.

 

[Eyeseeing]

Miller is bigger and stronger. Also he fights his own battles.

MacGinnon is stronger at his skating stride but that's not gonna save him.

Miller wins easily.

Miller couldn’t fight his way out of a wet paper bag.
Many fans would not want him on their team.
After reading how he talks to some teammates he’s not worth the trouble.

 

[Fatass]

To go to the Rangers. What a moron.

Exactly! Miller had a chance to play on a legit Cup contender whose top players are in their primes. He’d be contending for a Cup pretty much every year of his contract. But instead he chose his personal life (location) over opportunity to win the Cup. For sure that’s something he’s earned with his NMC but he’s not winning the Cup with that aging core of the Rangers of which he’s now an aging part. They are exiting their prime years.
The smart hockey move was obviously Colorado. But Miller chose his home life over that. So really how competitive is he? How much does he truly desire to win?

 

[eco's bones]

When a player blocks a trade to a contending team you can expect when that's found out there's going to be some salt going back towards him.

Almost from day 1 he's become the Rangers best player and part of that may be because he hasn't been part of the country club atmosphere that's permeated through the top players of this year's Rangers team. He's played hard on both sides of the puck...has not been making brain dead plays or giving up on plays. He's been very physical all the time. So so far anyway I'm happy having him here. And FWIW some of our team needs someone to get into their business as far as why they're playing half assed hockey.

 

[Dfence033]

Ive been super happy with the way Chytil has played. Puck Skills and Speed have been very impressive. I dont think Chytil has reached anywhere near his potential. I can see him being a 2C 60-75 point player.

If the main piece coming back from Avs was Mittlestadt then I'm glad JT rejected that.

Chytil, the 25 year old (26 at the start of next season), often injured player with a career high of 45 points and 22 goals, is going to suddenly add 67% more offense?

He’s on pace for a 10 goal, 50 point season over 82 games in Vancouver, while playing nearly 4 minutes more per game than he did as a Ranger. He’s a fine player, but most often the player you see after 380+ NHL games at 26 years old is the player you are getting. Guys in the NHL don’t often find 50% or more additional offense at 26+. He’s much more likely a streaky, injury prone guy who scores 45 points in 70 games and makes you wonder what could have been.

 

[sting101]

When a player blocks a trade to a contending team you can expect when that's found out there's going to be some salt going back towards him.

Almost from day 1 he's become the Rangers best player and part of that may be because he hasn't been part of the country club atmosphere that's permeated through the top players of this year's Rangers team. He's played hard on both sides of the puck...has not been making brain dead plays or giving up on plays. He's been very physical all the time. So so far anyway I'm happy having him here. And FWIW some of our team needs someone to get into their business as far as why they're playing half assed hockey.

yes the saltiness is overblown. Guy wants to win and players that don't care are nonchalant or don't pull their weight he has no issues calling them out and getting into fights with them if they are undermining what he wants to do. It might have gone too far with 1 individual but every story has 2 sides and there has been plenty of rumblings of players being upset he's gone

Is it too much? At times it is and he has some of his own consistency issues and past that make him seem like a bit of a hypocrite and things can get spicey because of it. On ice he's a general and sets up plays like a coach. He was always working on set plays and communicating in Vancouver. He was stand up with media and his wife did a ton of great community stuff. His loss has gutted the team of a rare PF that could score 100pts.
Bruce Boudreau in an recent interview had told about how much he would do to get the team together. Hosting events and parties and making arrangements for everyone and their wives/GFs to have a good time/bond. He's a huge presence so if you're in his cross hairs or don't like him everything is going to be magnified.

Big loss for the Avs though. He would have been amazing 1-2 with MacKinnon.
Things is he had family and friends reasons for NY and they still have a good team if they can spark some fire back into the group. Him and Trocheck are old buddies i bet they get it going.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Colorado dodged a bullet with that prima donna… MacKinnon would have eaten him alive.

Wait, JT Miller is made of chikapeas?

 

[Johnny HFBOARDS]

The people saying miller couldn’t handle MacKinnon maybe don’t have a ton of experience with these types of people? There’s an equally good chance they combined to form a kind of douchebag-Voltron, the ultimate alpha bro. I’m not even saying g this as a criticism, I think it’d be great.

Do you think they could have reached Devastator level?

 

[eco's bones]

yes the saltiness is overblown. Guy wants to win and players that don't care are nonchalant or don't pull their weight he has no issues calling them out and getting into fights with them if they are undermining what he wants to do. It might have gone too far with 1 individual but every story has 2 sides and there has been plenty of rumblings of players being upset he's gone

Is it too much? At times it is and he has some of his own consistency issues and past that make him seem like a bit of a hypocrite and things can get spicey because of it. On ice he's a general and sets up plays like a coach. He was always working on set plays and communicating in Vancouver. He was stand up with media and his wife did a ton of great community stuff. His loss has gutted the team of a rare PF that could score 100pts.
Bruce Boudreau in an recent interview had told about how much he would do to get the team together. Hosting events and parties and making arrangements for everyone and their wives/GFs to have a good time/bond. He's a huge presence so if you're in his cross hairs or don't like him everything is going to be magnified.

Big loss for the Avs though. He would have been amazing 1-2 with MacKinnon.
Things is he had family and friends reasons for NY and they still have a good team if they can spark some fire back into the group. Him and Trocheck are old buddies i bet they get it going.

Most Rangers fans would remember Trouba's helmet toss that came about because of an embarrassing performance if I remember against the Blackhawks. Trouba's game was already eroding but what he did bring was some sorely lacking leadership which was also Goodrow. The rest of the leadership on the team with maybe the exception of Trocheck is largely ceremonial. I'm getting the vibe from JT that he doesn't always accept losing with grace and some of our vets in this catastrophe of a season could use being called out because they do accept subpar performances too easily.

 

[sr edler]

Presumably would have been Mittelstadt+ as the basis.

I like Mittelstadt as a player, but him being the centre piece going back is hardly "blockbuster" at all.