Speculation: JT Miller, Part III
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I think this is key. He's likely in his career peak right now. That's why it makes sense to trade him. The team isn't close to being a contender and we have an incredibly bare prospect cupboard.
That's also why other fan bases are reluctant to sell the farm for him, which in my opinion is totally reasonable.
If your team is ready to make a run right now Miller is probably going to be worth the risk. A cheap, incredibly effective forward that is currently in his career and statistical peak is a very effective asset to add to a team that is already stacked. Literally a perfect combination.
If your team is not quite there yet the risk increases exponentially. That's why the Canucks need to offload him as his talents are wasted here and he'll never be more valuable than he is right now.
Bettman Returnz
Why so serious?
That pretty much sums it up as to why Canucks would even consider moving him.
With that said, what teams would significantly boost their cup chances by adding miller this deadline (so this year/ next year cup runs)? As it may not be the best idea for a team who’s still wrapping up a rebuild/ are 1-2 years away from legitimately competing.
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When was the last time a player, in the middle of their prime, producing at a 1.15 point-per-game rate (on pace for 94 points over 82 games), was traded? Then you factor in his contract of $5.25 million expiring in the 2023 offseason and the fact that he's versatile in playing in all situations and all forward positions (53.28% in face offs), and you'd think he should fetch a king's ransom. Blue chip prospect + 1st + B prospect/2nd round pick/average roster player at bare minimum IMO.
Pure Slaughter Value
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Look at the board you're on. This board fetishizes young men under 21 that have no experience. It's disturbing
I would think his next deal at minimum starts with an 8, I could even see 9, assuming he keeps up his play next year too. He's PPG for the last 3 seasons, plays in all situations and is a big time play-driver. You can argue he may not be worth 9M but if he hits UFA, GMs get loopy.
Pure Slaughter Value
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They're gonna get even loopier if it's announced beforehand when and how much the cap is going up (after post-covid impact, tv deals, etc).
Either at the end of the 22-23 or 23-24 season there's going to be some of the dumbest contracts ever announced due to a jump in the cap.
TheDoldrums
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Mirtle and Siegel from the Athletic did a podcast tonight on the Athletic recapping the Leafs moves.
Mirtle says they talked to Vancouver about Miller. The Canucks wanted Sandin, the Leafs moved on.
Mirtle says they talked to Vancouver about Miller. The Canucks wanted Sandin, the Leafs moved on.
Leafs can’t afford to trade a young D for something that would be a luxury item.
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Hughes4Calder
That’s insane. I’d give Sandin up in a heartbeat for Miller if I were Dubas. Unreal.
He'd be what the strength they hoped Foligno was. Apparently Dubas thinks he can keep doing what he's doing for eternity
Colorado, if they make it to the finals, will probably wish they traded for Miller. Whoever comes out of the east is going to be a juggernaut down the middle.
milehigh11
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Or Colorado will be in a good spot noting the East will be banged up just trying to reach the finals.
RebuildinVan
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JoeSakic13
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Wow the Avs should be on this. Not sure how much above a Sandin level prospect they’re looking for though.
VancouverJagger
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Put Byram in a package with some other pieces and I'm in. Let's make this work
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VancouverJagger
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Yeha u right too much risk for Vancouver............have to pass.......
Buresflyingelbow
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Now is the time! Great player but doesn't necessarily fit our window to win. We will see the set New management has towards potential backlash from the fanbase. Getting players to fit the timeline should be the priority without taking away from his value due to some term at a great cap hit. This man wants to win and hopefully teams realize what type of player he has become.
Albus Dumbledore
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Call me crazy but as a Leafs fan I'd do Sandin for Miller cap permitting a ppg player for 2 cup runs is an insane addition.
We have surplus of D anyway. Dermott left but we got Gio now too. 8 NHL caliber dmen right here.
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We have surplus of D anyway. Dermott left but we got Gio now too. 8 NHL caliber dmen right here.
Rielly
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Brodie
Sandin
Lily
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Gio
Holl
So Dubas should deal from his weakest position for yet another forward? And let’s be honest here, it wasn’t Sandin straight up….
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