Player Discussion Joshua Roy

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

Interesting to listen to Hugo too. He’s talked about building a team where you don’t know which line is the first and which is the 4th.

You may see combos like Beck with Slaf, Cc with Dach and Suzuki with Demidov. We might just scramble everything so it’s balanced everywhere.

We have the depth to do this potentially.

Could do this with the D as well.

That would be hell to play against

 

[The Great Weal]

It would be great to see the kid earn his way into the Top 6............my take is it's not likely.
Hope I am wrong.
Top 9 is more than likely in my opinion.

We don't have anyone else and he was our best player on the 2nd line before he got injured. Not to mention that we gave guys like Barron and RHP so many chances this past season to impress like how they did before but they failed, so I'm willing to bet he gets a fair chance in the top 6.

He will be the biggest surprise of training camp. Just watch

His skill+IQ combo might be top 3 in the whole organization.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

He will be the biggest surprise of training camp. Just watch

I think Dach and Hutson will be the biggest surprises in camp.

Dach because he hasn't played in a year, and people forgot how dominant he look towards the end of the season two years ago.

Hutson because we haven't seen much of him (no rookie tournaments, no Laval games, no preseason games, and only 2 reg season nhl games), and I think he's going to look more dominant than expected right from the get go.

 

[BLONG7]

We don't have anyone else and he was our best player on the 2nd line before he got injured. Not to mention that we gave guys like Barron and RHP so many chances this past season to impress like how they did before but they failed, so I'm willing to bet he gets a fair chance in the top 6.


His skill+IQ combo might be top 3 in the whole organization.

We can agree to disagree here
Again would love to be wrong, I am not seeing what you are seeing.......that happens.

The kid has talent no doubt......

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Anyone argue Sean Farrell is better than Roy today? Sometimes this board is entertaining, a good laught in the morning with my coffee is priceless, lol. like when Dvorak was quoted better and cheaper than Danault. Or when Weber was a crappy defenseman or when Reway was going to be a superstar, etc ...

 

[WeThreeKings]

Anyone argue Sean Farrell is better than Roy today? Sometimes this board is entertaining, a good laught in the morning with my coffee is priceless, lol. like when Dvorak was quoted better and cheaper than Danault. Or when Weber was a crappy defenseman or when Reway was going to be a superstar, etc ...

Not today, I argued it before because it was true at the time. Roy added a lot more to his game to allow him to find different avenues to the NHL than he had at the time.

That's the thing about prospects is you evaluate them continuously. Keeping an old opinion in the face of new progressions is the foolhardy way to go about it.

 

[Hins77]

Anyone argue Sean Farrell is better than Roy today? Sometimes this board is entertaining, a good laught in the morning with my coffee is priceless, lol. like when Dvorak was quoted better and cheaper than Danault. Or when Weber was a crappy defenseman or when Reway was going to be a superstar, etc ...

I have always prefer Joshua Roy over Farrell honestly. And one of the main reason, the size. I think, this is a lost pick to pick a forward at 5ft8. Unless, he has potential a la Lane Hutson, Cole Caufield or Jordan Dumais. Like they produce on a ridiculous pace. I personnally prefer to pick guys with size a la Xhekaj, Thorpe, Protz. There are no many 5 ft8 guy in the NHL, so there is no reason to draft many of them.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

It would be great to see the kid earn his way into the Top 6............my take is it's not likely.
Hope I am wrong.
Top 9 is more than likely in my opinion.

I think he’s got top six talent. But it’s his rookie year. I think 40 points is attainable this season.

Wouldn’t surprise me if he starts lower in the lineup and then they bring him up. But I’d like to see him int the top six from the get go.

 

[BLONG7]

Anyone argue Sean Farrell is better than Roy today? Sometimes this board is entertaining, a good laught in the morning with my coffee is priceless, lol. like when Dvorak was quoted better and cheaper than Danault. Or when Weber was a crappy defenseman or when Reway was going to be a superstar, etc ...

Farrell better than Roy?? Not a chance..............didn't see anyone saying that?
Roy is a legit top 9 player, with a real shot at top 6................we have seen the kid play well, but it's not a given that's for sure.

 

[Scintillating10]

Roy played well with Armia second half of last season. They likely on third line for me. Dvorak or Evans centering them. Newhook moves up on Dach wing.

 

[The Great Weal]

Roy played well with Armia second half of last season. They likely on third line for me. Dvorak or Evans centering them. Newhook moves up on Dach wing.

I'm just curious who would play in the top 6 this upcoming season if not Roy according to people who don't think he should play there.

CC-Suzuki-Slaf
Newhook-Dach-X
X-Dvorak-X
X-Evans-X

Josh Anderson who deserved to get waived after his performance last year? Brendan Gallagher who was -50 despite 13 minutes of ice time and still being gassed? Joel Armia who's essentially a PK specialist?

 

[overlords]

I'm just curious who would play in the top 6 this upcoming season if not Roy according to people who don't think he should play there.

CC-Suzuki-Slaf
Newhook-Dach-X
X-Dvorak-X
X-Evans-X

Josh Anderson who deserved to get waived after his performance last year? Brendan Gallagher who was -50 despite 13 minutes of ice time and still being gassed? Joel Armia who's essentially a PK specialist?

ABB to the rescue

 

[Redux91]

I'm just curious who would play in the top 6 this upcoming season if not Roy according to people who don't think he should play there.

CC-Suzuki-Slaf
Newhook-Dach-X
X-Dvorak-X
X-Evans-X

Josh Anderson who deserved to get waived after his performance last year? Brendan Gallagher who was -50 despite 13 minutes of ice time and still being gassed? Joel Armia who's essentially a PK specialist?

Clearly one of the 3 RWs in Anderson, Gallagher, Armia will (all?) be tried for that last top 6 spot

It shouldn't be any of them, but they sadly will try them first

Roy will get his chances eventually, he'll shine too, too good a hockey player not to

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Roy played well with Armia second half of last season. They likely on third line for me. Dvorak or Evans centering them. Newhook moves up on Dach wing.

Who plays with Dach and Newhook?

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Clearly one of the 3 RWs in Anderson, Gallagher, Armia will (all?) be tried for that last top 6 spot

It shouldn't be any of them, but they sadly will try them first

Roy will get his chances eventually, he'll shine too, too good a hockey player not to

I've been thinking about this and I'm not so sure they don't just put Roy there if he has a strong camp. Those other players didn't produce last year (thought Gallagher had his moments and was particularly good at the beginning of last year) and I'm not sure that MSL doesn't just go to them and tell them they're together and need to produce themselves.

Btw, if Anderson is given the role and produces? Trade him quickly.

 

[Scintillating10]

I'm just curious who would play in the top 6 this upcoming season if not Roy according to people who don't think he should play there.

CC-Suzuki-Slaf
Newhook-Dach-X
X-Dvorak-X
X-Evans-X

Josh Anderson who deserved to get waived after his performance last year? Brendan Gallagher who was -50 despite 13 minutes of ice time and still being gassed? Joel Armia who's essentially a PK specialist?

My original plan was trade for Necas/ Zegras. Then sign either Marchessault or DeBrusk. In a mix now where all those 6 options fell through. I am down to plan C. Most every camp somebody over exceeds, whomever it is he gets first dibs. Could be all for not as odds are Dach doesn't last past game 3 anyway.

 

[salbutera]

My original plan was trade for Necas/ Zegras. Then sign either Marchessault or DeBrusk. In a mix now where all 6 those options fell through. I am down to plan C. Most every camp somebody over exceeds, whomever it is he gets first dibs. Could be all for not as odds are Dach doesn't last past game 3 anyway.

Laine + McGroarty could be very doable

 

[The Great Weal]

Clearly one of the 3 RWs in Anderson, Gallagher, Armia will (all?) be tried for that last top 6 spot

It shouldn't be any of them, but they sadly will try them first

Roy will get his chances eventually, he'll shine too, too good a hockey player not to

RHP got tried extensively in the top 6 to try and replicate what he did the year prior, and that's with everyone knowing he'd be a bottom 6 guy at best. Not sure why the same wouldn't apply to Roy who is a much better prospect and also looked good in the top 6. Would be worse than MT/CJ level of stubbornness to not have him in the top 6 when the rest of the team sucks ass.

 

[Scintillating10]

Laine + McGroarty could be very doable

They weren't on my radar. For different reasons.

 

[Ozmodiar]

Every successful team has a player, or multiple players, who outperform their draft ranking and salary. I think Roy can be that guy for the Habs. He’s smart and has a nice release.

We could easily project a lineup of all top 9 players being former 1st round picks (beck 33rd - close enough) - but are they gonna be able to keep all of them happy? … either lack of upward mobility, or lack of cap available if they succeed, might drive a couple away.

They’re gonna need some players like Roy to step up.

 

[schwang26]

Who plays with Dach and Newhook?

It’ll be Anderson. They need him to succeed so he can be moved. I was just thinking today if he’s on the 3rd line, that’s close to $17 million on our third line! Anderson, Gally and Dvo. That has to be the most expensive 3rd line in the league.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

It’ll be Anderson. They need him to succeed so he can be moved. I was just thinking today if he’s on the 3rd line, that’s close to $17 million on our third line! Anderson, Gally and Dvo. That has to be the most expensive 3rd line in the league.

I'd rather they just see if Roy can handle it. I think they'll prioritize development over contracts.

At the end of the day, Anderson's gone in two years no matter what. But Roy is (hopefully) with us a long time. I'd much rather they focus on his development.

 

[Redux91]

RHP got tried extensively in the top 6 to try and replicate what he did the year prior, and that's with everyone knowing he'd be a bottom 6 guy at best. Not sure why the same wouldn't apply to Roy who is a much better prospect and also looked good in the top 6. Would be worse than MT/CJ level of stubbornness to not have him in the top 6 when the rest of the team sucks ass.

And when exactly did RHP play top6 extensively last year lol..
Also, RHP was much much older than the 20 about to be 21 yr old Roy
And RHP is much much faster as well
So that's obviously why RHP got any looks at all whenever they've played him

But yes Roy is a WAY better prospect, and is being brought in and developed at a great organic natural pace

He won't be in the top6 to start this year,
But he will finish the year on it

 

[The Great Weal]

And when exactly did RHP play top6 extensively last year lol..
Also, RHP was much much older than the 20 about to be 21 yr old Roy
And RHP is much much faster as well
So that's obviously why RHP got any looks at all whenever they've played him

But yes Roy is a WAY better prospect, and is being brought in and developed at a great organic natural pace

He won't be in the top6 to start this year,
But he will finish the year on it

RHP's most common linemates last year were Suzuki and CC, I'd call that extensive. He gradually started getting less ice time because he continued to be horrendous, yet still got his PP time.

Roy has more skill in his pinky than RHP and is a significantly smarter hockey player so I don't see why the age should be a factor. Yes RHP was faster and had more compete, but that completely disappeared last season.

They'd be idiots not to play Roy in the top 6 to start the year unless we trade for someone.

 

[jfhabs]

I have always prefer Joshua Roy over Farrell honestly. And one of the main reason, the size. I think, this is a lost pick to pick a forward at 5ft8. Unless, he has potential a la Lane Hutson, Cole Caufield or Jordan Dumais. Like they produce on a ridiculous pace. I personnally prefer to pick guys with size a la Xhekaj, Thorpe, Protz. There are no many 5 ft8 guy in the NHL, so there is no reason to draft many of them.

Farrell did have high offensive potential, but it doesn't look like it's going to work for him in Montreal...