Prospect Info: Joshua Roy Part 2

KevSkillz4

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No doubt, he will be a very good player in NHL. We all see his high hockey IQ yesterday. I can't wait to see him with Dach next year. They are going to be soo goood together!!
 

dackelljuneaubulis02

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When you see guys like Roy and Slaf pick up things rather quickly.. you know those are guys whose ceilings can't be defined until they hit them.
absolutely. Maybe he caps out as a solid complimentary top 6er who gets you 50-60. That would be great all in all but no one should be shocked if he's more than that. This kid has wildly excelled everywhere he's played since drafted. Big numbers.

He literally has one weakness that isn't as weak as many make it out to be while everything else is elite or borders on. This kid could be a huge part of the core going forward. It doesn't require much outlandishness or imagination to think he could be a special player.

I've said for awhile that I'd love another high end forward but I can very well see a scenario that what we have now COULD be good enough to get us into contender status.
 

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Great game yesterday. He made the most of his 12min of icetime and was a menace in his every shift. Although not explosive, skating is not a problem. The crow are early and good.

I imagine were gonna stop saying hes gonna get passed by Mesar and Beck on the depth chart?

Skating, size/reach, and strength.
His size and reach is average, thats not a weakness, its just not a strength.

His strength looks to be good, he routinely shakes off bigger and badder players.
 

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The thing that’s hard in MTL regarding pressure and expectations is this; fans like their « Warrior types », balls to the wall players. Whether that type has talent (Saku) or not (Begin), fans loves those styles but hate the players that aren’t high energy (Ryder, Ribs types).

Roy is the low energy type that does know what he’s doing on the ice and that does the small things like patience, positioning and cerebral way of approaching his game. He’s going to be so polarizing… Any fan that’s been around for a solid amount of time knows this. I’m not even going to adress the other factor..

I hope he’s ready for this because it gets to them before long. He’s going to make the NHL no doubt and I hope the fanbase can let him be who he is.
 

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Habs caught a big break. If he was born 35 days later, he was in Slafkovky’s draft. A same league comparable, Nathan Gaucher went at 22. With Roy’s ridiculous 50 goals 120 point he would have gone before Gaucher. So he’s definitely a 1st Round talent that by fate was drafted in the 5th round.
It was fate that Roy had 30 lbs of fat in his draft year!

As a note, Roy is the first QMJHL player of his draft year to play NHL games...and 4 of them were taken in the 1st round in 2021.
 

dackelljuneaubulis02

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I imagine were gonna stop saying hes gonna get passed by Mesar and Beck on the depth chart?


His size and reach is average, thats not a weakness, its just not a strength.

His strength looks to be good, he routinely shakes off bigger and badder players.
Ah but not elite! He got me there. Strength though is somewhat debatable like you said. Good at puck protection. I think he’s pretty damn strong
 
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Leon Lucius Black

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It was fate that Roy had 30 lbs of fat in his draft year!

As a note, Roy is the first QMJHL player of his draft year to play NHL games...and 4 of them were taken in the 1st round in 2021.

It is too late for this draft, but time for HuGo to start sending unlimited poutine to the top 2025 draft prospects to fatten them up in hopes they fall to our picks.
 

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Skating, size/reach, and strength.

His size is close to average, especially for a skill player and he is very strong for his size /age. I think his strength will be an asset especially in a few years from now. It is easy to forget that he is only 20 and won't turn 21 until the summer.

I would list only his speed as a weakness as his edges are quite good and his speed has consistently improved so it is still possible the he could get it to the point where it isn't such a noticeable weakness.
 

Estimated_Prophet

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JF Houle has said various times that Roy is a stronger player then he looks.

Skating could be an issue, I think the one to watch out for is motor.

His strength was very evident at the WJC's where he dominated on the boards, even Kaiden Guhle who was physically dominant in junior has had to play catch up with his strength at the NHL level. It is just a matter of time before Joshua becomes a real force on the boards imo.
 
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BenchBrawl

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I'm among Joshua Roy's biggest supporters since we drafted him, yet I would still let him finish the year in Laval.

Not because I don't think he could contribute right away in the NHL, but because he has to learn to handle the long seasons, and hot and cold streaks. Better do that far from the spotlight.

If we were Arizona, it wouldn't matter, but here, it does.
 

dackelljuneaubulis02

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I was most worried about how his skating would look in the NHL. He's not fast but he doesn't look out of place like I feared he might have been.
His skating just isn't as bad as many feared. It definitely can get better hopefully and he'd benefit a lot from that obviously. But he's made sizeable improvements over the last two years where it's not the black mark on his cv that it was.
 

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The thing that’s hard in MTL regarding pressure and expectations is this; fans like their « Warrior types », balls to the wall players. Whether that type has talent (Saku) or not (Begin), fans loves those styles but hate the players that aren’t high energy (Ryder, Ribs types).

Roy is the low energy type that does know what he’s doing on the ice and that does the small things like patience, positioning and cerebral way of approaching his game. He’s going to be so polarizing… Any fan that’s been around for a solid amount of time knows this. I’m not even going to adress the other factor..

I hope he’s ready for this because it gets to them before long. He’s going to make the NHL no doubt and I hope the fanbase can let him be who he is.
You’re absolutely right.
 
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JianYang

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What impressed me last night was that he found a way to create enough space to generate 5 shots on goal. I still think in the not too distant future that he returns to Laval. Let him keep developing.

Yeah I'm pretty sure thats the plan. The habs are just dangling the carrot infront of him right now and giving him an NHL taste.
 
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dackelljuneaubulis02

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I'm among Joshua Roy's biggest supporters since we drafted him, yet I would still let him finish the year in Laval.

Not because I don't think he could contribute right away in the NHL, but because he has to learn to handle the long seasons, and hot and cold streaks. Better do that far from the spotlight.

If we were Arizona, it wouldn't matter, but here, it does.
It'll be interesting to see if he has any say in this i.e. his play on the ice doing the talking.

The numbers game isn't gonna help but if he keeps producing/playing like he belongs, can they just go ahead and send him down regardless? I genuinely don't know.

From what I can see, I don't know if Laval will help him much more at this point. Could easily be wrong there. I don't think going back down will hurt him any but if you put a gun to my head and asked what league would help his development more, I'd say the NHL and feel confident enough in that assertion.

Either way will be fine.
 

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Speed and strength are still issues for him, if you watch him closely in Laval, he would often get rid of the puck as quickly as he got it because he knows he's going to get caught quickly since he doesn't have that extra gear or quick first few steps. When he gets caught, he is easy to tie up. I'm talking about in the AHL though not the WJC"s or the Q where he faced junior aged players. It's not that he's weak but he will need to get stronger and quicker, no question.
 

WeThreeKings

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Speed and strength are still issues for him, if you watch him closely in Laval, he would often get rid of the puck as quickly as he got it because he knows he's going to get caught quickly since he doesn't have that extra gear or quick first few steps. When he gets caught, he is easy to tie up. I'm talking about in the AHL though not the WJC"s or the Q where he faced junior aged players. It's not that he's weak but he will need to get stronger and quicker, no question.

A lot of it looks to be the knee bend to me.. like he's a very upright skater right now and that will hinder the amount of power he can generate.

I think that's why there's some differing opinions on his skating because when he does bend and exert effort he can provide some speed outputs that are encouraging.
 

Miller Time

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His ability to improve and to adapt will determine how good of an NHL career he will have.... Sounds pretty obvious and applicable to every single player that has ever played lol
 
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