Value of: Jonathan Quick at the deadline

[McSuper]

Quick at 50% retention is a $2.9 million cap hit. There are 31 other goalies in the league with a higher cap hit than Quick at 50%. Pittsburgh would save $600,000 in cap space trading Jarry, as just one example.

If I'm LA though, I'm not interested in just giving Quick away. As evidenced by several players leaving the Kings and just straight up being better players (Carter, Martinez, Toffoli, etc), there's still probably some real value there. Especially when Quick is on, man, he's just such a game changer.

I just don't know what "fair" looks like if LA is retaining 50% on a deal and taking back salary.

Koskinen + 1st +2nd 2023 for Quick 33% retained

 

[Kurrilino]

Koskinen + 1st +2nd 2023 for Quick 33% retained

Yep, Quick has Edmonton written all over it.
If there is a trade for Quick, Edmonton should offer something like that.
I like it for both teams.

 

[kilowatt]

Koskinen + 1st +2nd 2023 for Quick 33% retained

I'd probably do that. Good proposal.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Koskinen + 1st +2nd 2023 for Quick 33% retained

That's close to what I proposed as well, you just added another 2nd. I'd be okay with the 2nd if it is the 2024 2nd round pick, condition being that the Oilers make the Stanley Cup Finals in one of the next two years.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Edmonton is interested.

To Edmonton - Quick w/ $1.5 M retention (4.3 M cap hit I believe)
To LA - Koskinen, 1st round pick in 2022 draft

Money is basically even for the rest of the year. Koskinen is gone in the summer and has been playing reasonably well. Not sure if the 1st rounder is interesting to LA given their strong prospect pool and Petersen struggling. Thoughts Kings fans?

On one hand it's fair value imo but on the other, I can't imagine the Kings would be interested in a late 1st given the prospect pool. Ideally they'd get a good young player/prospect back either in addition or in substitute but that might be too much, too.

Edit: didn't see the followup with the extra pick, I'd probably be good with that.

I'll admit that I haven't watched him this year but is he really "back". Just looking at stats here. He's had good stretches the last few years but his overall numbers haven't been great. We are at an 11 game sample size and he gave up 6 goals on 38 shots tonight.

With 1.75yrs left that's a big gamble to take.

Ah yes lock it up folks, his value's gone, he had a bad game on paper tonight.

His overall numbers haven't been great because his team has been shit, though yes to be fair the last couple of years he's been on and off. See: Gibson, John. Quick is back in a big way. If you want a big game goalie via trade, he's gotta be the guy.

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

Why is it a problem? If he's playing at a 939 sv% - how is an extra year not a good thing?

because he's already 35 and this is the 1st time in the last 5 yrs he's put up good numbers? and that's only in 11 games.. just spitballin

 

[KingsHockey24]

It wouldn't be a bad idea to start thinking about the future in goal for the Kings.

Quicks is 42 and Cal Peterson definitely isn't the answer.

It's too bad we don't have that Jack Campbell guy just entering the prime of his career.

 

[PumperNichol]

Blake has said the cup vets will only be traded if they want out. They have earned the right to end their contracts as a king if they want to do so.

Show me the quote. They've already traded away cup vets Muzzin, Pearson, Toffoli, Martinez, Clifford, Carter...

 

[kilowatt]

Show me the quote. They've already traded away cup vets Muzzin, Pearson, Toffoli, Martinez, Clifford, Carter...

there is no quote

 

[Stimpythecat]

Show me the quote. They've already traded away cup vets Muzzin, Pearson, Toffoli, Martinez, Clifford, Carter...

This was mentioned by Blake in a video comment after the Muzzin, Toffoli, Martinez trades but before Carter. The cup vets reference was regarding Quick, Doughty, Kopitar, Brown, and Carter. The going thought was Carter wanted another kick at the can of winning a cup so that's why he was traded.

 

[PumperNichol]

This was mentioned by Blake in a video comment after the Muzzin, Toffoli, Martinez trades but before Carter. The cup vets reference was regarding Quick, Doughty, Kopitar, Brown, and Carter. The going thought was Carter wanted another kick at the can of winning a cup so that's why he was traded.

Ok I don't doubt you but, I wouldn't be surprised if those guys wouldn't want another kick at the cup. It most likely ain't gonna happen for Quick, Kopitar or Brown in LA. I'd hate to see those guys in a different uniform but if it speeds up the rebuild, I'm in.

 

[YP44]

Edmonton is interested.

To Edmonton - Quick w/ $1.5 M retention (4.3 M cap hit I believe)
To LA - Koskinen, 1st round pick in 2022 draft

Money is basically even for the rest of the year. Koskinen is gone in the summer and has been playing reasonably well. Not sure if the 1st rounder is interesting to LA given their strong prospect pool and Petersen struggling. Thoughts Kings fans?

any chance of switching the pick for Broberg? If so I would be all over this. Would even add more retention or a mid level prospect.

Cannot see Smith and Quick on the same team.

 

[Chayos]

People are inconsistent on this board. Price at 50% and people won’t take the contract, but suddenly Quick comes back from the dead after 5 years for 11 games and he is worth a first?

MTL needs a rebuild and Price is a MUCH better goalie. If the money can be made to work then do that.

 

[Kurrilino]

People are inconsistent on this board. Price at 50% and people won’t take the contract, but suddenly Quick comes back from the dead after 5 years for 11 games and he is worth a first?

MTL needs a rebuild and Price is a MUCH better goalie. If the money can be made to work then do that.

Not sure if serious.
They are similar goalies
Quick has 2 years contract left 5 mill each.
Price has 4 million years of contract left with 10 million each.

Do you see any difference?

 

[GOilers88]

any chance of switching the pick for Broberg? If so I would be all over this. Would even add more retention or a mid level prospect.

Cannot see Smith and Quick on the same team.

Negative, Ghost Rider

 

[Chayos]

Not sure if serious.
They are similar goalies
Quick has 2 years contract left 5 mill each.
Price has 4 million years of contract left with 10 million each.

Do you see any difference?

one team is heading into a rebuild and the other is coming out of one. The idea in the Price discussions was major retention for a quality return. He is younger, just plain better and the oilers have been a black hole in net for 15 years. They do not have concerns about older goalies and Price is the best available.

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

Not sure if serious.
They are similar goalies
Quick has 2 years contract left 5 mill each.
Price has 4 million years of contract left with 10 million each.

Do you see any difference?

anyone see the diff between price and quick right now? ones ones ones on a hit streak and the other, when healthy, it a game changer.

yeah,,, both their contracts suck... who'd ya rather have in the nets in the playoffs tomorrow

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

anyone see the diff between price and quick right now? ones ones ones on a hit streak and the other, when healthy, it a game changer.

yeah,,, both their contracts suck... who'd ya rather have in the nets in the playoffs tomorrow

The one with two Cups, a Conn Smythe with a record save % for a winning goaltender, and a history of 'big money' clutch performance for two years fewer and half the money.

 

[Schmooley]

who'd ya rather have in the nets in the playoffs tomorrow

Quick.

 

[Chayos]

Quick.

The Kings have players of a similar ilk to MTL. I will wash Doughty and Weber and MTL doesn’t have a Kopitar and yet they make it to the finals? Why do you think that is?

 

[Schmooley]

The Kings have players of a similar ilk to MTL. I will wash Doughty and Weber and MTL doesn’t have a Kopitar and yet they make it to the finals? Why do you think that is?

Did you just start watching hockey last season? Quicks won twice. When the chips are down you go with Quick end of story no custer shit

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Edmonton is interested.

To Edmonton - Quick w/ $1.5 M retention (4.3 M cap hit I believe)
To LA - Koskinen, 1st round pick in 2022 draft

Money is basically even for the rest of the year. Koskinen is gone in the summer and has been playing reasonably well. Not sure if the 1st rounder is interesting to LA given their strong prospect pool and Petersen struggling. Thoughts Kings fans?

I want no part of Quick next season at $4.3 million at 36 and giving a 1st to do so, that's horrid.

 

[Kurrilino]

The Kings have players of a similar ilk to MTL. I will wash Doughty and Weber and MTL doesn’t have a Kopitar and yet they make it to the finals? Why do you think that is?

May i ask where they are now after their Cinderella run?
One of the Canadian teams had to make it that far just by the setup of the playoff format.
It happens from time to time that a team has a lucky run until they have to defeat a real men team more than 1 time

 

[Chayos]

May i ask where they are now after their Cinderella run?
One of the Canadian teams had to make it that far just by the setup of the playoff format.
It happens from time to time that a team has a lucky run until they have to defeat a real men team more than 1 time

Do you mean where are they now after not having Price in net for them all year?

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Do you mean where are they now after not having Price in net for them all year?

Was last year Price's rookie year?

This consistently dishonest rhetoric is yawn-worthy.

Both have been on good and bad teams and the biggest differences between the two are contract, country of origin, and exposure of franchise...and that if you have to bet big on one of the guys to drag you all the way, Quick is the ONLY bet.