Glad they went BPA and not for organizational need eg. bischel or pickering
Prospect Info: Jonathan Lekkerimaki, #15 Overall, 2022 NHL Draft
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Cornwallace
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The lore on his elite shot is something out of a movie
thefeebster
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Need, Need, Need... have we learned nothing from 2016?
In theory, scouts should always pick the best player, regardless of position. Mgmt is supposed to address needs via signings and trades (moving areas of surplus to address deficits). I don't see a reason to deviate from that.
In theory, scouts should always pick the best player, regardless of position. Mgmt is supposed to address needs via signings and trades (moving areas of surplus to address deficits). I don't see a reason to deviate from that.
Repeat after me.
"YOU DO NOT DRAFT FOR POSITION. YOU DRAFT BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE"
Now your turn.
geebaan
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I’m not sold on this pick, but a lot of you guys are posting strong arguments and I’m coming around a bit. Still would have preferred Kemell or Bischel but if you guys are happy I’ll be happy.
No. KHL is more wide open, AHL uneven. In SHL teams plays a driven tactical game which makes it tighter and more difficult for instance a 17 years old.
Nucker101
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Maybe people mean for his szie, because usually sub-6ft skill guys are expected to be faster than average
His stride looks weird to me so I do think he can improve his speed. He doesn't seem to have shorter with a longer torso legs like Boeser does
I'm also looking at his SHL Jr #s: 26GP-20G-15A
I don't weigh international tournament play that highly ... who am I, Jim Benning? Seriously though, you never know when a dude actually played well or when he just pumped an Uzbekistani goat herder who moonlights as a goalie for a hat trick or two...
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How many times does Cassels have to fight to stick up for his teammates, the poor bugger is surrounded by so much softness…
Jensen might have had an NHL fight for the rangers maybe, would be ghe second greatest thing that group ever did.
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Hoglander
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All I've seen are the few minutes of highlights, so I'll be reserving judgement until I see him in action over the coarse of full games.
I will say that I am pretty impressed with how he cleanly ripped it past SHL goaltenders - these weren't lucky shots, he flat out beat goalies in one of the best mens leagues in the world.
He said one of the things he wants to focus on next year is being more competitive. Whether that means physically, or being more of a puckhound, I like it either way.
I will say that I am pretty impressed with how he cleanly ripped it past SHL goaltenders - these weren't lucky shots, he flat out beat goalies in one of the best mens leagues in the world.
He said one of the things he wants to focus on next year is being more competitive. Whether that means physically, or being more of a puckhound, I like it either way.
TryamkinPleaseReturn
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I had Bichsel at 9, I've been kinda targeting him all season, hoping we'd have a chance to draft him. But I had Lekerimaki just ahead of him (7). And Kemmell just after. I think they were 3 good picks.
PuckMunchkin
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I'm somewhat in the same boat,
but this year I didn't really get motivated to educate my self on the prospects so I don't have a strong opinion one way or another.
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Yeah I don't know any prospects other than the top 2 or 3 this time. Seems like they picked best player available and I'm good with that. We need centers and right sided D but anyone you draft isn't for right now it's for a couple years down the line and it's not like we are full of prospects right now. Any good prospect is a win for us at this point.
Svencouver
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"Always pick BPA, drafting for need is a mistake"
"Don't know why we got a winger, we need C and D"
"Don't know why we got a winger, we need C and D"
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I love the self-report when people say they do or don't like the pick, but then only compare him to past Canucks (Naslund+ seemingly Boeser negatively).
If you don't know the league well enough to choose players throughout the league, I sincerely doubt you have seen enough of JL or have enough comparison points.
Also, this board is so mercurial. Boeser led our team. in scoring in 20-21. He led an NHL team in scoring, and has scored at a 30 goal pace just about every season. But in a weird draft where the opinions are varied on how much talent there is to find, Boeser is the worst case scenario.
He's going to have a good year next year (Boeser) and so many people on here are going to get amnesia about what they said all season/off season about him, you heard it here first.
On JL. You take the best player available, period. He and Kemmell seemed to be considered similarly, and I give our GM the benefit of the doubt on Swedes like I do for Columbus with Finns. Remember when they didn't take Puljujarvi at 3 and everyone on hfboards mocked them? They took Dubois and now Edmonton is frustrated that they're being offered like a 3rd for JP.
Hockey sense, shot, finding space in the offensive zone and stepping into it at precisely the right time for a teammate to find you, and doing so at a competent level in the SHL at 17? Yes please.
If you don't know the league well enough to choose players throughout the league, I sincerely doubt you have seen enough of JL or have enough comparison points.
Also, this board is so mercurial. Boeser led our team. in scoring in 20-21. He led an NHL team in scoring, and has scored at a 30 goal pace just about every season. But in a weird draft where the opinions are varied on how much talent there is to find, Boeser is the worst case scenario.
He's going to have a good year next year (Boeser) and so many people on here are going to get amnesia about what they said all season/off season about him, you heard it here first.
On JL. You take the best player available, period. He and Kemmell seemed to be considered similarly, and I give our GM the benefit of the doubt on Swedes like I do for Columbus with Finns. Remember when they didn't take Puljujarvi at 3 and everyone on hfboards mocked them? They took Dubois and now Edmonton is frustrated that they're being offered like a 3rd for JP.
Hockey sense, shot, finding space in the offensive zone and stepping into it at precisely the right time for a teammate to find you, and doing so at a competent level in the SHL at 17? Yes please.
PuckMunchkin
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I've seen neither play... but from all reports Kemell and Lekkerimaki seem to be pretty similar players, with some scouts pointing at skating as being an issue for both. Lekkerimaki is reported to have a much better shot while Kemell is better in his own end.
Time will tell, of course, but Lekkerimaki appears to be a guy that, if he works on his skating, bulks up a bit and becomes more involved in his 200' game could really be a star in this league. But then again most of these kids will be better if they improve. I mean, duh.
Fatass
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There’s was a pretty good goal scorer drafted 15OA (1977) who dropped to that spot because some believed that all he could do - was score. This kid scores from everywhere and in every way."The thing is that Lekkerimäki isn’t really great at everything else. He is average at best when it comes to skating, and while he reads the game well he doesn’t push the envelop in any regard defensively. It is the one-dimensional play that makes it difficult to project his success down the line. In a way he reminds me a bit of Victor Olofsson of the Buffalo Sabres; while his overall game isn’t the best, it may not matter when you can score from anywhere on the ice."
2022 NHL Draft prospect profile: Jonathan Lekkerimäki is one of the draft’s best shooters
The winger has few peers in terms is his shot power, but that’s his only true ability.www.habseyesontheprize.com
got our boeser replacement
PuckMunchkin
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People talk about ‘BPA’ like it’s this concrete thing when it’s actually an artificial construct that is totally meaningless.
I’ve never seen in him in person but from those videos in looks like he has good edges and can create separation through pure hustle. The problem is it looks like his stride is too short and needs to be elongated to be more efficient. This has to be the most common problem from young players and the most easily fixed. He has the speed/energy in his legs to have a great first step, he just needs that first step to be slightly longer.
The good thing is that he is clearly very engaged and hustling which is an attitude (not a skill) so it can’t be taught. As he becomes older it will be natural that he finds a more efficient stride. In the meantime, the poor stride shouldn’t hold him back, so much as make him work/try harder than others to create separation (which it looks like he doing in the videos through sheer effort and will). This may be why Alvin said he’s a ‘gamer’
But again, this is all from videos and I’m no expert.
The good thing is that he is clearly very engaged and hustling which is an attitude (not a skill) so it can’t be taught. As he becomes older it will be natural that he finds a more efficient stride. In the meantime, the poor stride shouldn’t hold him back, so much as make him work/try harder than others to create separation (which it looks like he doing in the videos through sheer effort and will). This may be why Alvin said he’s a ‘gamer’
But again, this is all from videos and I’m no expert.
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Fatass
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He went through Mono this year. He’s 17. Got a frame to put on muscle as he matures. I think he’s going to get taller (6’). He’s not a guy who will carry the puck with exciting speed through the neutral zone. He’s more a cerebral player, who has elite puck skills, that can score in multiple ways. He reminds me of Bossy from his draft class. (Or more recently Marner, but with a shot.)
Trade down with whom? Montreal had their sights set on acquiring Dach and made it happen. Habs comfortable staying where they were after getting Slaf and the trading for Dach.
AZ moved up already to 11 with SJ. 27, 34, 45 in exchange. But they moved up to get Geekie and didn’t expect him to be at the Canucks picks so they paid extra to move up 16 spots.
AZ still had a late first and 1 second from Phi. 29 and 36. But they stayed Pat after their deal with SJ.
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