Why should the Montreal board be different than any of the others on HFBoards?
Every fanbase overvalues their players, us included.
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Why should the Montreal board be different than any of the others on HFBoards?
Every fanbase overvalues their players, us included.
For not playing Kova more? Maybe that was more a mgmt decision to get some of the younger guys in the game?
But his on ice numbers were good there.
Kovacevic was 26 last year lmao.
And I’m laughing at them, not you, because I think you’re right. I think they gave up on a top pair RHD so they could get like Logan Mailloux into the lineup or whatever
he's a Montreal castoff. If he's better than Luke Hughes than Hutson wins the Norris this year.
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its moves like this players like this that make me ok with trading the youth on defense that we have if it brings impactful help elsewhere. lock in your two core 1&2 d man that you want to build the defense around
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It was a mistake by Montreal, especially for the return.
Kovacevic has only been improving every seasons in Montreal and from what I can see, this year as well in New Jersey. He should have been Savard’s replacement.
Now Montreal has been playing with 5 LHD for most of the year, just stupid!
Far too much faith in Mailloux, Barron, and Savard heading into this year from MTL
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This thread bump keeps making me think we either traded him again or signed him to an extension. 
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Imagine if you guys took Michkov instead? Your forward unit would be scary as f***Don’t forget 19 years old Reinbacher
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Maverick Lamoureux instead of Mesar and Mitchkov instead of Reinbacher. We should have traded Matheson the latest at last year’s draft. Tank this year for a bottom 3 and maybe 3 to 4 first round picks.
But management wants to be “ in da mix”
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How long until MSL gets canned?Maverick Lamoureux instead of Mesar and Mitchkov instead of Reinbacher. We should have traded Matheson the latest at last year’s draft. Tank this year for a bottom 3 and maybe 3 to 4 first round picks.
But management wants to be “ in da mix”
I will say that even if Kovacevic is good on these terrible Habs, do they think about retaining him? Seems doubtful. They probably trade him for a 3rd at the deadline - no one's going nuts for a guy having a good season with no pedigree on a bad team.
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I don’t know.
Feels like the Bergevin years all over again.
If you look at the numbers, the improvements, the consistency and the fact he is a 6’5” 220 lbs RHD that does a bit of everything, you know you have to keep him as he replaces Savard.
He's UFA, why would he stay there? It's just a counterfactual - the Habs didn't see him as a longterm piece and moved him. The problem is that they didn't notice what he was doing last season, but once they didn't notice that, he was always gone.
I do think rebuilding organizations can get too fixated on the guys in their system to the detriment of what they have now, but also sometimes it just doesn't matter all that much. By the time Montreal's any good, Kovacevic almost certainly has no value.
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The problem with the Habs is holding on to Matheson past last year’s draft.
You get the extra assets for your rebuild while weakening yourself a bit for a higher 1st round pick. This year you trade Savard at the deadline and hopefully get a 1st and Kovacevic replaces him next year.
I think Kovacevic has another good 5-6 years in him.
But what do I know? Who needs a 6’5” 220 RDH stay at home jack of all trades dmen?’
I agree that it would've been good to try to move Matheson at last year's draft. The problem is, who would've wanted him? I don't think there are that many dumb NHL GMs anymore. What do you think they would offer for him? He's been on 3 different teams already and was basically moved as a salary dump by both Florida and Pittsburgh.
A bad team is just a vortex for player value. Even when a guy like Matheson explodes on a bad team, I don't think that many teams are fooled - there's only 2 defensemen on most power plays, and most teams already have a PP1 guy. Jake Walman had two solid years for the Wings and they traded a 2nd round pick to get rid of him.
Kovacevic is not a jack of all trades D man but he's good. He probably has another 5-6 good years in him, but if he's signed UFA by Montreal, he's likely not worth anything because they will be paying Montreal prices to keep him.
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Matheson just had 34 points in 48 games and 62 points in 82 games and makes 4.875 million for 2 seasons. I think at 2.44 mil for 2 years, there would have been several takers. He is not a # 1 dmen, but more than capable on the 2nd pairing.
Kovacevic is New Jersey # 4 dmen and yes he does a little bit of everything.
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Verbeek just took on Trouba's entire deal and sent back assets. I think there would have been a taker for Matheson - particularly if there was retention. The Habs may not have gotten a ton, but selling high on Matheson seemed obvious last year.
What's weird to me is that the Canadiens moved Kovacevic over the summer - and only for a fourth. Montreal was 10 deep on D, but six (Mailloux, Reinbacher, Struble, Xhekaj, Hutson and Guhle) were still waivers exempt coming into the season, and they only had three experienced RD. Assuming everything else played out the same, they could have sent Hutson or Xhekaij down and kept Kovacevic. Or waived Kovacevic once they saw there were six or seven D ahead of him. The insurance seemed well worth a fourth round pick.
Feels like Montreal (MSL?) actively didn't like him.
Meanwhile, Montreal is attempting to force its inexperienced D (with Guhle playing his off side) to play a very complicated hybrid system:
