Player Discussion Jonathan Drouin----Nothing burger edition.

[OldCraig71]

Many people here say that Carey Price signed his contract and he should know that expectations come with the money and I agree with that. Jonathan Drouin signed a deal that made him the highest-paid forward on this team and he had to have known that it would not be acceptable to show up when he wants to and not face any type of scrutiny from his coach or the fans. That's not how it works, his contract when compared to some others league-wide is not a big deal but on this team it is, he has to dig down deep and find a way out of this. If he wants out then he should turn his game up like he did last year against the Jets, that type of performance blew me away and it would make other GM's take notice, he is not getting traded while he sulks or drifts around the ice like a headless chicken. He has to put his big boy pants on and just do it, character is built in times of struggle. Just my 2 cents.

 

[CHwest]

I don't wish him harm and can understand how not everyone is comfortable at the idea of seeing a psychologist since it is still viewed by some as a sign of weakness or it can be hard for yourself to admit you're not perfect but I always found his logic in that regard odd. If a guy like MacKinnon can do it, I think Drouin could. Anyway this type of statement makes me think he could benefit from seeing one:

« Ça fait trois ans que je le dis, c’est moi qui me mets de la pression, a invoqué un Drouin plus abrupte qu’à l’habitude. Je n’ai pas besoin de Marc Bergevin ou de Claude pour que je mette de la pression sur moi-même. Je m’en mets assez pour performer, c’est à moi de faire ça. »

If he's putting too much pressure on himself, it's not healthy and media won't help (plus fans) that's for sure. Maybe in a market where he can do his thing incognito (and sort out of his pressure issues), he could still reach another level but I think his days are numbered here. I don't see a deal being made before the season starts, but I wouldn't be surprised if around X-mas time he's gone if he's at 0.6PPG and looks relatively uninspired in his play.

There is a lot of new study going into Hallucinogens for depression and anxiety. Apparently it offers a complete reset for the brain, when it works(it works a lot) it's effect is immediate and long lasting. Maybe that kind of reset could do wonders for him, just an erase of a bad mind set.

 

[sampollock]

JD is here to stay. and you get what you traded for , young forward with 40/50 point status

 

[OnTheRun]

JD is here to stay. and you get what you traded for , young forward with 40/50 point status

In Marc Bergevin own words he traded for a young player with superstar potential.
40~50 points you're not a star, let alone a superstar. So no, he didn't get what he traded for... Or at the very least what he got wasn't what he wanted to get out of this trade.

 

[Censored Toad]

There is a lot of new study going into Hallucinogens for depression and anxiety. Apparently it offers a complete reset for the brain, when it works(it works a lot) it's effect is immediate and long lasting. Maybe that kind of reset could do wonders for him, just an erase of a bad mind set.

Maybe CBD oil would be right for him. Never used but I have many friends who swear by the stuff for assisting with many aliments including anxiety

 

[HuGort]

Drouin been a disappointment for sure. I wouldn't say a major disappointment because there has been flashes. Hard to believe his career would fall like this? He was once a star with the Mooseheads. Won the Mike Bossy award then the CHL player of year award, he was the fastest skater in an NHL all-star game. Drafted third overall in a deep draft by Stevie Y. Hard to believe he fooled that many high end hockey people. Has to be something underneath. Either work ethic, mental illness, something we don't know about has to be wrong.

 

[cphabs]

JD is here to stay. and you get what you traded for , young forward with 40/50 point status

He was NOT characterized as the above when we made the trade...
From the front office no less. Seriously.

 

[cphabs]

There is a lot of new study going into Hallucinogens for depression and anxiety. Apparently it offers a complete reset for the brain, when it works(it works a lot) it's effect is immediate and long lasting. Maybe that kind of reset could do wonders for him, just an erase of a bad mind set.

Drouin on psychedelics? Oh, please! I beg you!

 

[Mia]

JD is here to stay. and you get what you traded for , young forward with 40/50 point status

The thing is he cost his team probably close to that 40-50 points production not only with his nonstop turnovers and non existant effort when there's not an assist or a goal on the line, but also by the fact that he play for himself and the team comes way behind.
Just like guys like gallagher and domi can have huge motivating effects on their teamates by always sacrificing their selves and puting their ego aside for the good of the team, guys like drouin have the contrary effect on everyone's motivation

 

[cphabs]

Many people here say that Carey Price signed his contract and he should know that expectations come with the money and I agree with that. Jonathan Drouin signed a deal that made him the highest-paid forward on this team and he had to have known that it would not be acceptable to show up when he wants to and not face any type of scrutiny from his coach or the fans. That's not how it works, his contract when compared to some others league-wide is not a big deal but on this team it is, he has to dig down deep and find a way out of this. If he wants out then he should turn his game up like he did last year against the Jets, that type of performance blew me away and it would make other GM's take notice, he is not getting traded while he sulks or drifts around the ice like a headless chicken. He has to put his big boy pants on and just do it, character is built in times of struggle. Just my 2 cents.

He’s been in “times of struggle” before and shit the bed. Drouin is 24 years old as well. Tampa and Yzerman did everything they could to help the kid and he created a spectacle out of it.

 

[Bouboumaster]

The pressure the media put on this 24 years old kind of make me sick.

 

[Fazkovsky]

The pressure the media put on this 24 years old kind of make me sick.

24 years old is no kid. We are actually talking about a kid that was drafted 6 years ago not Kotkaniemi. He doesn't drive to the net, he doesn't make consistent dangerous plays in the O zone. We gave Sergachev for him.

 

[26Mats]

24 years old is no kid. We are actually talking about a kid that was drafted 6 years ago not Kotkaniemi. He doesn't drive to the net, he doesn't make consistent dangerous plays in the O zone. We gave Sergachev for him.

I think it's pretty clear Julien's not going to keep churning him out there if he keeps giving nothing like he did in the final 1/3 of last season.

I expect a lot of 4th line time and maybe some press box time until he shows he can turn it around.

 

[The Great Weal]

The pressure the media put on this 24 years old kind of make me sick.

His play makes me sick. I know preseason means absolutely nothing, but you would have liked to see motivation from a guy who shit to bed hard in the 2nd half of the year.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

The media made him the Golden boy for two years. It’s not their fault he refuses to give any effort. They gave him a much longer leash than they ever gave P.K., or Price or any other number of stars. Don’t cry about the media here, anything Drouin has done he has earned from his lack of effort and intensity.

 

[yianik]

MB knew he was getting a kid with issues. What he banked on was the Quebecois kid would get his head together and ascend to stardom on coming home to Quebec. There is a thought that returning to Quebec gives a guy an extra passion and gear.

Looks like MB was wrong. I hope Drouin turns it around this year, we could sure use his skill, but he is no kid and he lacks intensity , work ethic and desire.

 

[Monsieur Miz]

The pressure the media put on this 24 years old kind of make me sick.

Aww, poor millionnaire playing a game for a living.

 

[Merci Saku]

Aww, poor millionnaire playing a game for a living.

With do people always go with the money argument??
Because if you have money then suddenly you’re not human and protected from everything a human being can feel?

Like it or not, you have to be one hell of a player to make it to the show,

 

[Rapala]

I've said it before, but unfortunately now is not the time to trade Drouin. His trade value is probably at an all-time low. Unless people are just happy getting his contract off the books. I wouldn't expect much of a return for the guy.

We overpaid so what does that say about his value? MB makes some big mistakes and the one thing he needs to do is move them out like he did with Alzner. Take what we can get and move on, Develop a kid who shows he wants to play in the NHL for Montreal.

 

[Miller Time]

With do people always go with the money argument??
Because if you have money then suddenly you’re not human and protected from everything a human being can feel?

Like it or not, you have to be one hell of a player to make it to the show,

Well the money they make is quite relevant... They aren't paid that much because they are good athletes, they get paid that much precisely because of the attention their sport attracts...

There are countless athletes who are incredible at their sport, but never make a fraction of what Drouin makes in a month.

He's literally paid to be in the spotlight... Why would anyone feel bad for him? He could walk away from the scrutiny tomorrow if it bothers him that much.

Save your concern for people who deserve it

 

[Deluded Puck]

The pressure the media put on this 24 years old kind of make me sick.

The media have been far nicer to a 22-24 year old Drouin than they ever were to Carey Price from 2009-11, PK Subban from 2011-13 or even an Alex Galchenyuk from 2016-18.

The Habs marketed Drouin as a big star the media went with it. Drouin surely had people around him advising him what it mean to be a pure Laine in Montreal. He signed that contract. Zero sympathy.

 

[Ozmodiar]

We overpaid so what does that say about his value? MB makes some big mistakes and the one thing he needs to do is move them out like he did with Alzner. Take what we can get and move on, Develop a kid who shows he wants to play in the NHL for Montreal.

MB wouldn’t have to deal with this if he followed his own “character” philosophy.

 

[OldCraig71]

MB knew he was getting a kid with issues. What he banked on was the Quebecois kid would get his head together and ascend to stardom on coming home to Quebec. There is a thought that returning to Quebec gives a guy an extra passion and gear.

Looks like MB was wrong. I hope Drouin turns it around this year, we could sure use his skill, but he is no kid and he lacks intensity , work ethic and desire.

MB obviously only cared about PR. There is no other way to look at it, he traded one of the best D prospects in the game for a winger, a winger with issues. A young defender that we desperately needed, now it is all blowing up just like many of us thought it would. Suzuki and Poehling and Evans want to be on the team and it certainly appears that Drouin does not. The drama is about to unfold, just watch.

 

[OldCraig71]

The media have been far nicer to a 22-24 year old Drouin than they ever were to Carey Price from 2009-11, PK Subban from 2011-13 or even an Alex Galchenyuk from 2016-18.

The Habs marketed Drouin as a big star the media went with it. Drouin surely had people around him advising him what it mean to be a pure Laine in Montreal. He signed that contract. Zero sympathy.

Very very true and well said. I was here for all of that and the same "haters" that crucified Price, Subban and Chucky are the same a$$holes that called me a bigot for my criticism of the local boy and guess what? I was right all along and they weren't! Again, nicely said!

 

[Rapala]

The pressure the media put on this 24 years old kind of make me sick.

Pshaw. I still remember a Red Fisher quote from way back when during the first NHL work stoppage.
Referring to the game of Hockey and the players salaries and the pressure of playing in Montreal.
"Real pressure is being a single mother with three kids living off welfare"