In Memoriam Johnny Gaudreau & Matthew Gaudreau killed by drunk driver while cycling (MOD WARNING. No Flaming, Trolling, or Politics.)

[Sheppy]

Where do we have HIS lawyer chiming in? We do not have the entire picture--we do have the cops and DA building a slam dunk case. Before the statements given was his rights read to him. Did he suffer any injuries at the time of the accident that could have affected his mind--like a concussion? I was in an accident a few years ago and suffered a concussion that caused me some harm. Has the doctors released the drivers medical results.

So no we do not have all the information. We have only one side

Jesus Christ.

 

[Jumptheshark]

We have plenty.

The asshole driver was 6 drinks in AND was actively drinking in his car when he hit them.

He showed a level of selfishness, arrogance, indifference, and recklessness that is so far beyond the pale that it is almost cartoonishly villainous.

His complete disregard for others is how you see drunk drivers often portrayed in movies and you laugh because it seems so unrealistic.

can you post the interview where the driving admits to all these details?

 

[Kcb12345]

Just incredibly sad. No words really

Heartbroken for his family, especially his wife and kids. And the fact that this happened prior to his sisters wedding makes it so much worse man. Just awful

Where do we have HIS lawyer chiming in? We do not have the entire picture--we do have the cops and DA building a slam dunk case. Before the statements given was his rights read to him. Did he suffer any injuries at the time of the accident that could have affected his mind--like a concussion? I was in an accident a few years ago and suffered a concussion that caused me some harm. Has the doctors released the drivers medical results.

So no we do not have all the information. We have only one side

All that matters is he was drinking and driving. What are you even trying to get at here? He admitted to that already.

 

[M88K]

If he was sober, he wouldn't have attempted to aggressively pass a vehicle on the right side (shoulder).

asshole drivers are still asshole drivers drunk or sober. Guessing the action doesn't change

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

 

[swiftwin]

See my comment immediately above. Nobody is saying Gaudreau was at fault.

No, but by bringing up these things, you are implicitly assigning some blame to him.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Where do we have HIS lawyer chiming in? We do not have the entire picture--we do have the cops and DA building a slam dunk case. Before the statements given was his rights read to him. Did he suffer any injuries at the time of the accident that could have affected his mind--like a concussion? I was in an accident a few years ago and suffered a concussion that caused me some harm. Has the doctors released the drivers medical results.

So no we do not have all the information. We have only one side

He was literally still drinking while he was driving and you want to discuss legal technicalities like Miranda rights?

 

[Sheppy]

can you post the interview where the driving admits to all these details?

Can you kick rocks?

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Some of you guys are being insane this thread. There's a blatant difference between street smarts and this. There's NOTHING that would've saved them in this situation and the "they should've just stayed home a night before the wedding" rebuttal that I know I'm gonna get as a reply is dumb as well

 

[Fish on The Sand]

Where do we have HIS lawyer chiming in? We do not have the entire picture--we do have the cops and DA building a slam dunk case. Before the statements given was his rights read to him. Did he suffer any injuries at the time of the accident that could have affected his mind--like a concussion? I was in an accident a few years ago and suffered a concussion that caused me some harm. Has the doctors released the drivers medical results.

So no we do not have all the information. We have only one side

What the f*** are you talking about. How would having a concussion sustained in the crash effect the crash.

This is some real stupid shit and you should be ashamed for posting it.

 

[behemolari]

I see it happen a few times a week where I live, so I have to assume that not everyone who does it is drunk. Some people are just too impatient to wait.

damn.. here someone would follow, stop the driver and give him lesson (northern finland)

 

[Bizz]

America needs to start treating Driving like it's a privilege again, like it was initially intended to. At least 40% of the people on the road have no f***ing business operating a motor vehicle because they have zero regard for the lives and safety of others and it shows time and time again according to the statistics.

I can't tell you how many close calls I had over the years when I was driving 8+ hours a day for work. Just 3 days ago we had a drunkard with previous DUIs on his record drive 5 miles the wrong way on Highway 85 here and took out a mother and her kid in a head on collision. It's f***ing disgusting and it needed to be addressed decades ago.

 

[JKG33]

I think there's a difference between victim blaming the Gaudreaus here and saying "you shouldn't be biking on these kind of roads at night". The lesson for cyclists to take away here is that drivers are aggressive assholes that give no regards for the safety of cyclists on the road. Biking away from cars is just safer than biking near cars, because drivers don't respect cyclists, pedestrians and even other drivers in this country.

It's an absolute joke that this is the case, especially with how a lot of states have "you can't bike on sidewalks" laws, but it's just how messed up this country is with cycling. Being in a bike lane, wearing reflective/protective gear, clearly signaling your intentions and whatever else don't matter when the drivers don't respect you or care about your safety.

Most North American roads simply aren't designed for cyclists. I've never understood the laws forcing bikes onto busy roads and off the sidewalks. Most bikes are going at most half the speed limit of the road. Why are we forcing them into traffic, which is both a dangerous and hostile environment.

A very likely result of a collision between a vehicle and cyclist is death. What happens if a bicycle hits a pedestrian? Maybe a broken bone or two.

 

[Chileiceman]

I don't think it's hard to know your limit at all. If I know I have to drive, I will not drink more than one drink. That's not to say I'm tanked after two drinks, but I know it lowers my reaction time. And the same way that it can make me more socially comfortable, it can subconsciously make more more comfortable taking risks I wouldn't comfortable taking otherwise. Odds are I would be absolutely fine to drive after two drinks and nothing would happen. But it's just a completely unnecessary risk. And drivers who don't know their limits, or who know them but don't stay within them do not deserve some kind of sympathy pat or understanding. They deserve scorn and prison.

People just need to think about these things before deciding to have a drink. And if someone can't make smart choices for themselves, I think those around that person need to intervene.

Needless to say, this is shocking. I am just at a loss for words. I loved watching Johnny play. When he was on, he was as good as Patrick Kane. Just electric. Prayers for the family, I can't imagine what they must be going through.

This is probably the wrong time, but I ask this only out of concern for the well-being of his wife and kids. Are contracts insured in case of death for a player's beneficiaries?

 

[f7ben]

My dad always said you can be right and dead at the same time.

Riding a bicycle on the roadway is so f***ing stupid I can’t wrap my head around it. There are many terrible drivers out there doing all kinds of stupid shit. Just because they may be at fault does not mean that you want to be the one in their way.

This sucks , but life sucks

 

[Coffey]

It’s not necessarily a victim blame.

Biking rural roads at night is like walking through a dark urban park at night. Regardless of whether it should be as safe as broad daylight, on a practical level you’re going to encounter different dangers.

And this dude was drunk and tried to pass on the shoulder.

No blame falls on the Gaudreaus.

 

[paragon]

Unimaginable, awful, condolences to the family and friends, and everybody affected.

Especially the sister who was about to have a wedding today, I can’t even imagine, it’s hard to put into words, just absolutely terrible.

I hope they can find peace in the future.

RIP Johnny and Matthew.

The wedding just compounds the tragedy even more. What a sad day.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Where do we have HIS lawyer chiming in? We do not have the entire picture--we do have the cops and DA building a slam dunk case. Before the statements given was his rights read to him. Did he suffer any injuries at the time of the accident that could have affected his mind--like a concussion? I was in an accident a few years ago and suffered a concussion that caused me some harm. Has the doctors released the drivers medical results.

So no we do not have all the information. We have only one side

I hear you, but from what we know of the basic facts of the case, there’s really not a mitigating factor that could make this make any sort of sense for the driver. Any way you look at it, you have alcohol + dangerous maneuver + manslaughter.

And this dude was drunk and tried to pass on the shoulder.

No blame falls on the Gaudreaus.

Right. Nobody ever said they were to blame.

 

[Stauf4Prez]

My dad always said you can be right and dead at the same time.

Riding a bicycle on the roadway is so f***ing stupid I can’t wrap my head around it. There are many terrible drivers out there doing all kinds of stupid shit. Just because they may be at fault does not mean that you want to be the one in their way.

This sucks , but life sucks

Bad take, man.

 

[blankall]

Where do we have HIS lawyer chiming in? We do not have the entire picture--we do have the cops and DA building a slam dunk case. Before the statements given was his rights read to him. Did he suffer any injuries at the time of the accident that could have affected his mind--like a concussion? I was in an accident a few years ago and suffered a concussion that caused me some harm. Has the doctors released the drivers medical results.

So no we do not have all the information. We have only one side

Sounds pretty clear cut to me. The driver was drinking and speeding. A driver ahead pulled to the left slightly to safely get around the cyclists. The drunk driver, being impaired, then decides to drive up onto the shoulder while speeding to get around him.

 

[TheBeard]

It’s a good reminder that some posters on here are genuinely unintelligent and also bad people who aren’t worth engaging with even about trivial matters

This is a bit harsh. People can have opinions. I haven't seen anyone excuse the driver or call hm a victim.

 

[TooManyHumans]

I totally agree with your sentiments on this, but it sounds like it was a rural road. Not a lot of rural areas are truly bike friendly. Which is only to say, this isn’t a US attitude problem so much as a problem with the logistics of mixing bikes in with motor vehicle traffic.

Yeah, I was thinking of the bike "lanes" that are really just a few feet at the edge of an actual lane, with only some paint to show that it even exists. It is not safe at all.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

Ok I need to leave this thread before I get permabanned for responding to the victim blamers (and yes it 100% is that, no matter how much you try to split hairs).

It's a testament to how entitled drivers are to immediately comment on the behavior of the cyclists.

To the people focusing on bike lights, helmets, potentially dark rural roads, kindly go f*** yourself and do some reflecting on how you'd feel if that were your family member or friend riding in a completely legal manner.


What a devastating loss to the Gaudreau family. Condolences. RIP. There really are no words...

 

[TooManyHumans]

Where do we have HIS lawyer chiming in? We do not have the entire picture--we do have the cops and DA building a slam dunk case. Before the statements given was his rights read to him. Did he suffer any injuries at the time of the accident that could have affected his mind--like a concussion? I was in an accident a few years ago and suffered a concussion that caused me some harm. Has the doctors released the drivers medical results.

So no we do not have all the information. We have only one side

We have the driver saying that the beers impacted his aggression.

 

[Coffey]

Right. Nobody ever said they were to blame.

I mean.. This all came from a dude saying

"I will say that biking at night is never a good idea. This is a lesson to have lights on your bike and reflective high-vis vests."

So yes, seems like they were blaming the brothers for biking at night.