Johnny Gaudreau Dead

[jaysoneil]

The world would be an undeniably better place without alcohol.

Two brothers just out for a ride the night before their sisters big wedding day - completely life altering events in the blink of an eye.

 

[HLLYWD99]

RIP Johnny and Matthew and condolences to the family.


The amount of pain that this drunk driver has unleashed is un f*#kin believable!

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

As an alcoholic I've got way more empathy for addicts than most but I've never hit a woman, a child, my partner or driven drunk. Bury this f***ing guy.

 

[Wally1112pac]

Johnny Gaudreau Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com

Statistics of Johnny Gaudreau, a hockey player from Salem, NJ born Aug 13 1993 who was active from 2010 to 2024.

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I think they should vote Gaudreau into the Hall of Fame when the time is right.

He would have been over 1000 points when he retired if his life wasn't cut short.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Johnny Gaudreau Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com

Statistics of Johnny Gaudreau, a hockey player from Salem, NJ born Aug 13 1993 who was active from 2010 to 2024.

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I think they should vote Gaudreau into the Hall of Fame when the time is right.

He would have been over 1000 points when he retired if his life wasn't cut short.

I disagree

He never won a major award, had a limited playoff career and only had two elite seasons in his career

His death was tragedy but that doesn't make him a HHOF IMO

If guys like Middleton, Mogilny, Nicholls, Brind'Amour, Fleury, Larmer and Damphousse are not in HHOF it would be hard to justify JG going into HOF ahead of them

Then you got guys like Brad Richards, Vincent Lecavilier, Gary Roberts, etc and others who you can argue had greater careers, on par or it can be argued were more impactful

There are 4 guys with 500+ goals who are not active players who are not in HOF (Only 47 players in history of league have scored 500 goals)

Patrick Marleau (566)
Keith Tkachuk (538)
Pat Verbeek (522)
Petr Bondra (503)

Can it be argued JG is more deserving than them? Tkachuk and Bondra scoring 500+ playing in dead puck era for most of careers to me is more impressive then Gaudreau career

Also, Gaudreau was not safe bet for 1,000 pts

He was 31 yrs old and has shown decline his last 2 years. There is no reason to assume safely that decline would not have continued

 

[Paul Allen]

I disagree

He never won a major award, had a limited playoff career and only had two elite seasons in his career

His death was tragedy but that doesn't make him a HHOF IMO

If guys like Middleton, Mogilny, Nicholls, Brind'Amour, Fleury, Larmer and Damphousse are not in HHOF it would be hard to justify JG going into HOF ahead of them

Then you got guys like Brad Richards, Vincent Lecavilier, Gary Roberts, etc and others who you can argue had greater careers, on par or it can be argued were more impactful

There are 4 guys with 500+ goals who are not active players who are not in HOF (Only 47 players in history of league have scored 500 goals)

Patrick Marleau (566)
Keith Tkachuk (538)
Pat Verbeek (522)
Petr Bondra (503)

Can it be argued JG is more deserving than them? Tkachuk and Bondra scoring 500+ playing in dead puck era for most of careers to me is more impressive then Gaudreau career

Also, Gaudreau was not safe bet for 1,000 pts

He was 31 yrs old and has shown decline his last 2 years. There is no reason to assume safely that decline would not have continued

It isn’t the NHL hall of fame though. He won a Clark Cup, was USHL RoY, Hobey Baker winner, won NCAA championship, WJC gold, 3rd most points in a season by an American. Was he truly declining or just on a not so good CBJ team the last two years?

 

[Wally1112pac]

I disagree

He never won a major award, had a limited playoff career and only had two elite seasons in his career

His death was tragedy but that doesn't make him a HHOF IMO

If guys like Middleton, Mogilny, Nicholls, Brind'Amour, Fleury, Larmer and Damphousse are not in HHOF it would be hard to justify JG going into HOF ahead of them

Then you got guys like Brad Richards, Vincent Lecavilier, Gary Roberts, etc and others who you can argue had greater careers, on par or it can be argued were more impactful

There are 4 guys with 500+ goals who are not active players who are not in HOF (Only 47 players in history of league have scored 500 goals)

Patrick Marleau (566)
Keith Tkachuk (538)
Pat Verbeek (522)
Petr Bondra (503)

Can it be argued JG is more deserving than them? Tkachuk and Bondra scoring 500+ playing in dead puck era for most of careers to me is more impressive then Gaudreau career

Also, Gaudreau was not safe bet for 1,000 pts

He was 31 yrs old and has shown decline his last 2 years. There is no reason to assume safely that decline would not have continued

If you want to play devils advocate, go ahead.

Gaudreau going to the Hall doesn't mean the players you listed can't get in. I don't understand your logic. It took JR 15 years... I'm sure some of the guys you listed will get in as well.

Gaudreau was having himself a HOF career before it was cut short.

 

[clydesdale line]

If there was a HOF Gaudreau would be in, I'm 100% putting him in the USA Hall of Fame. He'll likely have his number retired in Boston College (amazing collegiate career) and Calgary as well. The Hockey Hall of Fame is a bit of a stretch though in my opinion.

 

[TLEH]

Can't really put guys in on what ifs. No idea how his career would have went.

 

[statswatcher]

it's petty compared to the sheer humanity of what's occurred, but a small part of the tragedy is we will never know what gaudreau would have done going forward. it would be hard to justify putting him in the hall of it actually meant something besides pleasing the correct people, but it doesn't, so i can see him going in out of sentimentality, and i wouldn't complain being as how i don't take the hof seriously and don't know why anyone else does.

 

[No Fun Shogun]

It's really impossible to seperate the two. The actualities of the tragedy are heartbreaking on every level, but at the same time it's understandably and undeniably depressing for an already depressed fanbase. His free agency signing was basically the only voluntary signing worth celebrating in franchise's history, after all, and his death is one of the bleakest in team history both on- and off-the-ice.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

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[TJBrocker]

so awful

 

[Beukeboom Fan]

Can't really put guys in on what ifs. No idea how his career would have went.

I disagree in general - a guy like Cam Neely got in based on peak and career cut short by injury.

I tend to agree with BWC on JG's potential for the HOF. I wouldn't have said that JG was a HOF'er previously based on a very short peak. With that said though, there are worst things than honoring a guy who was taken way too soon, and who was a rare breed of a guy who was able to be elite at his size. I think that's worth a lot when you think about JG's ability to overcome physical limitations and put up the career he did. YMMV.