John Tavares the Man the Myth the Legend

[TopCheeseShotta]

What are our plans for replacing JT besides the just let him go mantra?

Fantasies, mostly. You can't get better for this role in this market to play 2nd line centre for under 7M. JT is the devil we know, and he's proven he can play here already. Most men we get here turn into Foligno's, Clarksons, O'Reillys, and Laughtons. Not this guy.

Again, tho.. not a Contract thread. This is about the player.

 

[TopCheeseShotta]

Yep, it really is one of the best. In fairness, I think there are clearly a couple better ones, where cups were won

Totally. I meant more in Leaf terms than in Leaguewide terms. But he's still up there which is insanity! That we can all agree on.

 

[arso40]

Totally. I meant more in Leaf terms than in Leaguewide terms. But he's still up there which is insanity! That we can all agree on.

Bredda ah your bwoi dat e

 

[TopCheeseShotta]

Bredda ah your bwoi dat e

Manz is a beast, yuh'ear me..? He nah romp w 'im profession-al top cheese shotta Don Dada status!

 

[arso40]

Manz is a beast, yuh'ear me..? He nah romp w 'im profession-al top cheese shotta Don Dada status!

Ear dat

 

[banks]

I still can't believe how much complaining this guy has had to take from Leafs fans over his tenure here. Tavares is a GREAT player. But people were convinced he'd regress and be overpaid on this contract, so they hated on him.

And even now, here we are with him in the last year of his contract and he's over point-per-game and has over 30 goals. Yet people don't want to extend him because they're assuming he'll regress. 7 mill for a #2 center is great value. And he's going to be a great player during that contract too.

Contract talk aside, I'm glad he's part of the team, and I thing he's going to be a big part of a deep playoff run coming up.

 

[arso40]

I still can't believe how much complaining this guy has had to take from Leafs fans over his tenure here. Tavares is a GREAT player. But people were convinced he'd regress and be overpaid on this contract, so they hated on him.

And even now, here we are with him in the last year of his contract and he's over point-per-game and has over 30 goals. Yet people don't want to extend him because they're assuming he'll regress. 7 mill for a #2 center is great value. And he's going to be a great player during that contract too.

Contract talk aside, I'm glad he's part of the team, and I thing he's going to be a big part of a deep playoff run coming up.

11 mil for a 2c was worth every complaint let’s not kid ourselves Hes looking good but not for 11 mil when his cap hit takes a dip then I’m sure the complaining will dip with it

 

[Duffman955]

He has really picked up his play.

2nd lines been dominant

 

[notbias]

11 mil for a 2c was worth every complaint let’s not kid ourselves Hes looking good but not for 11 mil when his cap hit takes a dip then I’m sure the complaining will dip with it

What 2C? He is a 1C.

 

[kevsh]

What 2C? He is a 1C.

True. So then the Leafs are severely overpaying their 2C at $13.25M.

 

[notbias]

True. So then the Leafs are severely overpaying their 2C at $13.25M.

If it is 2C on a team, then Malkin has been a 2C his entire career, or Draisaitl has been one for most of his career... tell me that is true, and we can use your wrong definition.

 

[Confucius]

If it is 2C on a team, then Malkin has been a 2C his entire career, or Draisaitl has been one for most of his career... tell me that is true, and we can use your wrong definition.

Add William is a 2nd liner as well.. lol

 

[PROUD PAPA]

Gotta hand it to Johnny. He maintained a high level of play throughout that contract. I had my doubts he would but he sure showed me.

 

[francis246]

I still can't believe how much complaining this guy has had to take from Leafs fans over his tenure here. Tavares is a GREAT player. But people were convinced he'd regress and be overpaid on this contract, so they hated on him.

And even now, here we are with him in the last year of his contract and he's over point-per-game and has over 30 goals. Yet people don't want to extend him because they're assuming he'll regress. 7 mill for a #2 center is great value. And he's going to be a great player during that contract too.

Contract talk aside, I'm glad he's part of the team, and I thing he's going to be a big part of a deep playoff run coming up.

If it wasn’t for the lack of playoff success he’d honestly be looked at as one of the best unrestricted free agent signings. Extremely consistent throughout his contract.

 

[keonsbitterness]

No one ever foresees a major decline....until it happens. Win the cup this season and then let him ride into the sunset.

He can be signed for a limited number of years and no NMC to protect against that.

 

[Maple Leaf]

Pay him for 3C

 

[Evilhomer]

He can be signed for a limited number of years and no NMC to protect against that.

He is absolutely getting no-movement rights.

 

[A1LeafNation]

I don't think his 11m brought value as much as ppl are saying.

For 10m+ I expect the player to carry a line and teams to game plan against you. Tavares production was nice but let's not kid ourselves, he wasn't a franchise player the past 7 years.

Moving forward, he's a 34+ 2C/2W for about 60 points, that's a 5-6m for 3 years given his age

 

[arso40]

Gotta hand it to Johnny. He maintained a high level of play throughout that contract. I had my doubts he would but he sure showed me.

Hes a poor man’s Crosby shouldn’t have came at a surprise that he wouldn’t completely fall off he has a work ethic

 

[Maple Leaf]

He is absolutely getting no-movement rights.

As long as he has a room booked at Robidas Island

 

[PROUD PAPA]

Hes a poor man’s Crosby shouldn’t have came at a surprise that he wouldn’t completely fall off he has a work ethic

Concerns were strictly based on his foot speed and how the overall speed of the game was increasing. Can’t see many questioning his will and drive.

 

[ToneDog]

I don't think his 11m brought value as much as ppl are saying.

For 10m+ I expect the player to carry a line and teams to game plan against you. Tavares production was nice but let's not kid ourselves, he wasn't a franchise player the past 7 years.

Moving forward, he's a 34+ 2C/2W for about 60 points, that's a 5-6m for 3 years given his age

You might be light given the expected cap increases the next 3 years. Hopefully he gives the Leafs a discount and defers money to bring the AAV down. He'd gain a ton of goodwill from the fans if he did.

 

[Confucius]

Amongst centers, 6th in goals scored, 17th in points,
49 `centers make 7 or more, Jeeze 75 make 5 million or more.

 

[arso40]

Amongst centers, 6th in goals scored, 17th in points,
49 `centers make 7 or more, Jeeze 75 make 5 million or more.

So 7 is a steal? lol damn

 

[Ports]

What will he do against Tampa or Florida in the playoffs ? He’s having a great season so far but can he produce against superior competition? Can a top heavy, two line team go on a deep playoff run ? If the answers to the above are no, then team construction needs to change and all bets are off unless he’s willing to take a significant haircut.