Value of: John Marino

[HugeInTheShire]

With the Devils apparent interest in Brett Pesce, John Marino could be the guy dealt to make room for him.
What is his value? He's a top 4 RHD with 3 more years at 4.4 per season and no trade protection until next week.

Devils are likely looking for a LHD, top six forward with size or bottom 6 depth. Probably not interested in draft picks or non NHL ready prospects.

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[Zrhutch]

If I’m Dallas, I’m heavily interested. From what you’re saying Mason Marchment straight up could be a fit, but Faksa+nils Lundkvist are also guys Dallas would give up.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I think his value would likely be lower than what most fans would be willing to pay. He's coming off a pretty dud of a year, has a NTC that starts in a week and has term left at $4.4 million a year. I don't think he'd bring back as much as fans here would say he'd bring back.

Like with the Marchment example from above, I think New Jersey would probably be adding on top of Marino to pull him off.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Marino (4.4M x 3) for Cam Fowler (6.5M x 2), or something around young RFA D Jackson Lacombe?

 

[Captain Mountain]

I think his value would likely be lower than what most fans would be willing to pay. He's coming off a pretty dud of a year, has a NTC that starts in a week and has term left at $4.4 million a year. I don't think he'd bring back as much as fans here would say he'd bring back.

Like with the Marchment example from above, I think New Jersey would probably be adding on top of Marino to pull him off.

4.4 Mil and the term doesn't seem too bad tbh, but I'm not sure there's going to be a big market for him before his NTC kicks in given his poor season. I guess it depends on the quality the Devils would want, but I think a top 6 forward with size is somewhat out of reach unless there are serious red flags.

 

[dgibb10]

I think his value would likely be lower than what most fans would be willing to pay. He's coming off a pretty dud of a year, has a NTC that starts in a week and has term left at $4.4 million a year. I don't think he'd bring back as much as fans here would say he'd bring back.

Like with the Marchment example from above, I think New Jersey would probably be adding on top of Marino to pull him off.

He's probably an upgrade at 2RD for what arguably 27 teams currently have under contract or as RFAs (Pulock, Carlo*, Spurgeon, Whitecloud*)

Now probably Roy, Montour, and Pesce are upgrades in UFA, but with NJD apparently getting Pesce.

That's going to leave 25 teams who marino would improve at 2RD.

 

[Forge]

I think they are going to keep him. Wouldn't be surprised if pesce just plays his off side if they sign him

 

[Empoleon8771]

He's probably an upgrade at 2RD for what arguably 27 teams currently have under contract or as RFAs (Pulock, Carlo*, Spurgeon, Whitecloud*)

Now probably Roy, Montour, and Pesce are upgrades in UFA, but with NJD apparently getting Pesce.

That's going to leave 25 teams who marino would improve at 2RD.

Uh, that is absolutely not the case.

My team has Letang and Karlsson on RD and Marino is absolutely not better than either of them.

 

[Devils Trap]

If I’m Dallas, I’m heavily interested. From what you’re saying Mason Marchment straight up could be a fit, but Faksa+nils Lundkvist are also guys Dallas would give up.

Straight up for Marchment makes ALOT of sense for me

 

[Dog]

Utah?

 

[dgibb10]

Uh, that is absolutely not the case.

My team has Letang and Karlsson on RD and Marino is absolutely not better than either of them.

He is 100% better than 37 year old letang.

You want to talk about down years, letang fell off a cliff from 22-23 to 23-24. And again, is likely only getting worse

 

[Empoleon8771]

He is 100% better than 37 year old letang.

Lmao that's a comically bad opinion

I watched Marino when he was better than he is now with the Penguins. Marino isn't and has never been better than Letang.

You want to talk about down years, letang fell off a cliff from 22-23 to 23-24. And again, is likely only getting worse

How is that Letang "falling off a cliff"?

 

[dgibb10]

Lmao that's a comically bad opinion

I watched Marino when he was better than he is now with the Penguins. Marino isn't and has never been better than Letang.

Letang really fell off defensively this past year.

And again, is 37 years old, and likely only heading further and further down

 

[HugeInTheShire]

If I’m Dallas, I’m heavily interested. From what you’re saying Mason Marchment straight up could be a fit, but Faksa+nils Lundkvist are also guys Dallas would give up.

Marchment would be someone I think NJ would have interest in for sure.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Letang really fell off defensively this past year.

And again, is 37 years old, and likely only heading further and further down

If this is "falling off a cliff", I'd love to hear how good Letang was before "falling off a cliff".

 

[HugeInTheShire]

4.4 Mil and the term doesn't seem too bad tbh, but I'm not sure there's going to be a big market for him before his NTC kicks in given his poor season. I guess it depends on the quality the Devils would want, but I think a top 6 forward with size is somewhat out of reach unless there are serious red flags.

I was just saying what NJ wants not that Marino would get a top 6 forward with size, without adding to him.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

If I’m Dallas, I’m heavily interested. From what you’re saying Mason Marchment straight up could be a fit, but Faksa+nils Lundkvist are also guys Dallas would give up.

You have my attention

 

[Drew Doubty]

Any interest in Hoglander? 23 year old signed @ 1.1 for this year and multiple RFA years left. He's undersized but is built like a fire-hydrant and is an absolute dog on the puck. Scored 24 last year (bit of a shooting % bender) but there's no question he can score. Would be a great 3rd line scoring option on any team.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

Letang really fell off defensively this past year.

And again, is 37 years old, and likely only heading further and further down

Please don't derail this thread arguing about who he is or isn't better than. Pittsburg wouldn't have interest in him. The rest is fighting for the sake of fighting.

 

[dgibb10]

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If this is "falling off a cliff", I'd love to hear how good Letang was before "falling off a cliff".

Worse on both sides of the puck, significantly worse on the PP, although his PK play was impressive. Taking a lot more penalties now.

Again, if you want to take the 37 year old, be my guest.

 

[Gurglesons]

Any interest in Hoglander? 23 year old signed @ 1.1 for this year and multiple RFA years left. He's undersized but is built like a fire-hydrant and is an absolute dog on the puck. Scored 24 last year (bit of a shooting % bender) but there's no question he can score. Would be a great 3rd line scoring option on any team.

Hoglander for Marino is the deal that immediately comes to my mind.

Also, it's hilarious that the Devils are going to potentially trade Marino after how many Devils fans told me this guy TOTALLY ROCKS.

 

[Devils Trap]

Hoglander for Marino is the deal that immediately comes to my mind.

Also, it's hilarious that the Devils are going to potentially trade Marino after how many Devils fans told me this guy TOTALLY ROCKS.

We have NO desire to trade him lol. He is very good.

But if we are upgrading on him with Pesce, there is no need to keep 4.4 million of his cap when we have 3 stud young Dmen in the wings

 

[CallSaul]

Chychrun straight up.

 

[Gurglesons]

We have NO desire to trade him lol. He is very good.

But if we are upgrading on him with Pesce, there is no need to keep 4.4 million of his cap when we have 3 stud young Dmen in the wings

Then why is management focusing on upgrading RHD if he is very good?

 

[Devils Trap]

Then why is management focusing on upgrading RHD if he is very good?

Because good teams typically improve their team even in areas of strength to get better.

Not only do we upgrade on him but we get a free asset by trading him !?? Seems like excellent asset management to me