John Carlson Appreciation Thread
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Pierre-Luc Dubas
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I can see why you might think that from afar but I’ve never heard anyone who watches the caps regularly say that
The team pretty much collapsed when he missed 2-3 months a couple years ago after almost losing his ear to that slapshot vs Winnipeg. Only time they’ve missed the playoffs in what 13 or so years?
ETA: It‘s an even greater testament to him as a player that he fought hard to return in what was a lost season, coming back after a 3 month recuperation to play the last 9 games for a non-playoff team.
I’m sure no one would have faulted him for writing the rest of the year off and coming back the next fall, and the fact that he didn’t speaks volumes about his sense of duty to his teammates and the role he plays in setting the team culture, which is low-key one of the best in the league.
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hb13xchamps
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258 out of 697 points (37%) is a PP specialist now? Not to mention that nearly 70% of his career goals came at 5 on 5. Might want to do a little homework before posting next time.
Alexander the Gr8
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Felidae
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Let's see if his resume is Hall of fame worthy..
Norris record: 2, 4, 5, 10, 10, 12
Didn't peak super high nor have a lengthy Norris record..(ongoing ofc, but already 35)
4th in scoring and 9th in PPG among defenseman in the 2010s.
The names surrounding him in scoring that decade are Brent Burns, Erik Karlsson, Alex Pietrangelo, Kris Letang, Victor Hedman, Ryan Suter..
All excellent defenseman, but the only locks here are Victor Hedman and Erik Karlsson. Burns probably gets in given he has a Norris and was a finalist two other times
Everyone else is borderline/hall of very good given they were never Norris Finalists more than once, Remember that it's much harder for defenseman to get inducted.
And while I do think he probably has the weakest case here, it's not laughable to discuss him getting inducted one day. I'd say everyone I named have comparable individual resumes to Phil Housley and Sergei Zubov, both of whom are in.
To add to this, he's arguably the greatest Washington capitals defenseman of all time with Rod Langway having the only real argument given his two Norris trophies and longevity with the franchise. Voters seem to like that stuff
Norris record: 2, 4, 5, 10, 10, 12
Didn't peak super high nor have a lengthy Norris record..(ongoing ofc, but already 35)
4th in scoring and 9th in PPG among defenseman in the 2010s.
The names surrounding him in scoring that decade are Brent Burns, Erik Karlsson, Alex Pietrangelo, Kris Letang, Victor Hedman, Ryan Suter..
All excellent defenseman, but the only locks here are Victor Hedman and Erik Karlsson. Burns probably gets in given he has a Norris and was a finalist two other times
Everyone else is borderline/hall of very good given they were never Norris Finalists more than once, Remember that it's much harder for defenseman to get inducted.
And while I do think he probably has the weakest case here, it's not laughable to discuss him getting inducted one day. I'd say everyone I named have comparable individual resumes to Phil Housley and Sergei Zubov, both of whom are in.
Liam Smith
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Led the league in TOI last season, just continues to show up every game and play his best. So underrated amongst most fans outside of DC.
It comes down to people associating the caps with Ovi's record. The rest of the team seemingly gets very little press, which is arguably a good thing, but guys who should be recognized for their efforts are often overlooked.
It comes down to people associating the caps with Ovi's record. The rest of the team seemingly gets very little press, which is arguably a good thing, but guys who should be recognized for their efforts are often overlooked.
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Neil Racki
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Guy is a warrior. True team player, 100% buys in.
He dragged the Caps across the playoff finish line last year, won 4 of last 5, because of him and his 29 mins a game. We had 2 AHLers D men sometimes 3 playing at end of last season.
He gets ragged a bit for having a face that makes him naturally look like hes perma-high .. then he'll sail one into the stands for a 2min delay and ya wonder
Great dude, great player, great teammate,
Lock for Hall of Great
Should finish 4th all time for points as USA defensemen
He dragged the Caps across the playoff finish line last year, won 4 of last 5, because of him and his 29 mins a game. We had 2 AHLers D men sometimes 3 playing at end of last season.
He gets ragged a bit for having a face that makes him naturally look like hes perma-high .. then he'll sail one into the stands for a 2min delay and ya wonder
Great dude, great player, great teammate,
Lock for Hall of Great
Should finish 4th all time for points as USA defensemen
wickedwitch
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a basic statistical analysis of the Caps with and without Carlson from two seasons ago:
But to summarize: the Caps were actually in a playoff spot before he got injured. They ended up picking 8th.
But to summarize: the Caps were actually in a playoff spot before he got injured. They ended up picking 8th.
