Player Discussion John Beecher

[quietbruinfan]

I am not a big fan. He has speed and size but below average skill and average sense. I think he would be better on the wing. That might be average skill and below average sense lol.

Btw I said in Facebook group he would be lucky to be Joe Colbornne. He responded with "really." Embarrassing and shows you what I know......

 

[DKH]

I am not a big fan. He has speed and size but below average skill and average sense. I think he would be better on the wing. That might be average skill and below average sense lol.

Btw I said in Facebook group he would be lucky to be Joe Colbornne. He responded with "really." Embarrassing and shows you what I know......

Wait, what? Beecher responded to you with a ‘really’?

I like Beecher but Colborne did have a 19 goal 44 point season in 73 games

That said basically he was a stiff and horrible pick

They passed on John Carlson who Eric lobbied on HF to take for a month leading up

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Wait, what? Beecher responded to you with a ‘really’?

I like Beecher but Colborne did have a 19 goal 44 point season in 73 games

That said basically he was a stiff and horrible pick

They passed on John Carlson who Eric lobbied on HF to take for a month leading up

Yep, that seems well out of Beecher's range.

Roman Josi was available too, But Carlson would have been good enough.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

Is he waiver exempt? A few games in Prov to work on his scoring like Poitras has been given could help.

 

[DKH]

Is he waiver exempt? A few games in Prov to work on his scoring like Poitras has been given could help.

He’s not

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Is he waiver exempt? A few games in Prov to work on his scoring like Poitras has been given could help.

Not sure there is anything to work with.

 

[Kegs]

Is he waiver exempt? A few games in Prov to work on his scoring like Poitras has been given could help.

He doesn’t have scoring in the tool box.

 

[goldenblack]

Do we know if Freddy and this guy share an apartment?

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

I find him a bit disappointing. Another player with speed and size but does not appear overly physical.

Finish hits hard and forecheck, few other expectations. Can Kastelic have a word with the number of size players who hardly finish a heavy hits?

Even a Kuraly mold would be ideal for a 4th liner with speed and size.

 

[Kalus]

I find him a bit disappointing. Another player with speed and size but does not appear overly physical.

Finish hits hard and forecheck, few other expectations. Can Kastelic have a word with the number of size players who hardly finish a heavy hits?

Even a Kuraly mold would be ideal for a 4th liner with speed and size.

All true. Beecher would be a much more effective player if he got in on the forecheck and was all over the defenders using his god-given size and speed.

He’ll be 24 in April, so while he isn’t exactly a block of clay, he still has some room to improve. Kuraly didn’t really establish himself until his age 25 season. Beecher seems like a good pro, if he can just commit himself to a somewhat more physical approach and come up with some timely scoring on occasion, he’ll be a solid 4th liner for years to come.

I’m not holding out hope because if physicality isn’t in a players game from a young age, it’s hard to manufacturer over sustained periods as a pro, but we’ll see.

 

[bme44]

I hope the only reason Beecher is still in the line up is to try and increase his trade value

 

[Dr Hook]

I'm pretty much over John Beecher as a regular in the lineup. He wins draws, which is not nothing I guess, but does little else. His stick is the place offense goes to die. His speed is nice, but rarely produces much positive, and for a big guy he pretty non-physical most of the time. Time to move on.

 

[Beyonder]

At this point I think it's safe to conclude that Beecher is just one of those players who is around for a few years in a bottom 6 role and then he's gone and another player takes that spot for a couple years. He's not much of a bright spot in the role he has but it's not like he will be part of the plan for the next 3-5 years. He's pretty nondescript.

It's not a big deal aside from the fact that they used a 1st round pick on him but 2019 did not turn out to be the strongest draft class, so... whatever I guess. They passed over a few players taken shortly after him that would be nice to have but that's hardly uncommon. As long as you aren't saying that about a bunch of your drafts...

 

[Shaun]

they drafted him in the first round with the expectation of him being a bottom 6 player. he some how has underachieved those expectations by being a fringe guy.

 

[weaponomega]

I really don't see any upside with him. Good skater with good size, but doesn't know how to use either attribute and has no clue of what's going on on the ice. No hands at all and a rock for hockey IQ.

 

[FMulder]

I want to like him but like a lot of bottom 6ers, there are a lot of Beechers in Providence or around the league.

 

[Coach Parker]

Just seems like another 1st round bust at this point. Could float around the NHL as a 4th liner? Anyone else seeing improvement?

 

[PlayMakers]

Just seems like another 1st round bust at this point. Could float around the NHL as a 4th liner? Anyone else seeing improvement?

He's a very limited player. Tons of speed, defends well, great at face-offs, and terrible hands... but I wouldn't say he's a bust. He was drafted 30th overall and is 36th in his draft year in games played, 40th in scoring. There are 8 or 9 guys drafted ahead of him who haven't played 100 games yet (and don't look like they're going to). Getting a player at all, in the 30-60 range is a win.

 

[I am Bettman]

He was drafted to be a bottom six defensive player with very limited offensive upside, and he has become that. Not sure what people were expecting.

 

[Dr Hook]

He was drafted to be a bottom six defensive player with very limited offensive upside, and he has become that. Not sure what people were expecting.

He started the season well, actually. I think expectation for me was a Kuraly/Nosek type which is not unreasonable for a late first rounder. It was also a weak draft class past the mid first round as @PlayMakers alluded to, so there’s that. He wasn’t really a swing and a miss where he was taken and for who was available but I expected a bit more.

 

[BadBruins]

If he played with any tempo or energy..... he'd be a player that I'd look to keep for the rebuild. As it stands, if he weren't a Sweeney 1st round pick, American, and former college hockey player.... I don't think he's in the league. Pure nothingness. And seemingly content to be that way.

In the same category as Coyle and Carlo emotionally. This is the type of personality that I would like to steer away from.

 

[McGarnagle]

His early rookie season was so good that I thought we had a foundational piece of a future 4th line, and yet somehow he's regressed from even staying in the lineup

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

He's a very limited player. Tons of speed, defends well, great at face-offs, and terrible hands... but I wouldn't say he's a bust. He was drafted 30th overall and is 36th in his draft year in games played, 40th in scoring. There are 8 or 9 guys drafted ahead of him who haven't played 100 games yet (and don't look like they're going to). Getting a player at all, in the 30-60 range is a win.

Yeah man… I don’t know.

If you take a guy in the first round and after five years of developing the kid, all you get is a middle-of-the-road fourth line player that you can grab for a buck any offseason… is that really a win?

It’s not an L exactly. It’s better than nuthin’. But realistically, it’s really more of a push.