Player Discussion John Beecher

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I could be way off base with my thoughts on Beecher, this kid has the size, speed, and physical tools, and I hope the right attitude , I would really like to see the Bruins really work with this kid, still young and just a feeling he might be a late bloomer. Some players get labeled as 4th liner or a 3rd liner and everyone's opinion fall in line, I have a different take, this is a kid I am interested in seeing where he lands. .............I am probably all wet, but you never know.
 
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I could be way off base with my thoughts on Beecher, this kid has the size, speed, and physical tools, and I hope the right attitude , I would really like to see the Bruins really work with this kid, still young and just a feeling he might be a late bloomer. Some players get labeled as 4th liner or a 3rd liner and everyone's opinion fall in line, I have a different take, this is a kid I am interested in seeing where he lands. .............I am probably all wet, but you never know.
I agree he has all the tools but sometimes they lack the hunger to be the best they can ...to me that's what really separates the JAGs from those who blossom into bigger roles ... time will tell if he has a high level hunger to elevate his game. I'm still on the fence with him.
 

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I think our depth forwards are pretty undervalued. Freddy, Geekie, and Beecher all give you more than you can ask for at their cap hits. Get shit on pretty regularly. Then you have irrational takes on a guy like Debrusk one day someone wants him sent to Providence the next he deserves an 8 year extension.

I doubt the Ottawa guy is better than Beecher even if he wins a few more faceoffs.

Beecher has competion though we added a few big forwards that were blocked in very good orgainzations (Tampa and Col) or like Jones lots of minutes for a bottom feeder in Anaheim.
 

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I think our depth forwards are pretty undervalued. Freddy, Geekie, and Beecher all give you more than you can ask for at their cap hits. Get shit on pretty regularly. Then you have irrational takes on a guy like Debrusk one day someone wants him sent to Providence the next he deserves an 8 year extension.

I doubt the Ottawa guy is better than Beecher even if he wins a few more faceoffs.

Beecher has competion though we added a few big forwards that were blocked in very good orgainzations (Tampa and Col) or like Jones lots of minutes for a bottom feeder in Anaheim.
I am with you on those three, and I, like watching young guy progress and I think that these guys will never be 40 goal players, but are players that make your team better and are needed to win. Hey, they are all young enough that one of them could have that career year at some point, and we will all enjoy the hell out of them.
 

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I agree he has all the tools but sometimes they lack the hunger to be the best they can ...to me that's what really separates the JAGs from those who blossom into bigger roles ... time will tell if he has a high level hunger to elevate his game. I'm still on the fence with him.
Beecher doesn’t have a goal scorers shot. And he doesn’t have a play makers vision.

Beecher could be the yellow hungry hungry hippo and still not score 20 goals.

He is a fourth line talent. Having a good bottom six is what separates teams from the pack in my opinion. This turned out to be a good draft pick. He is clearly an NHL player. I will never expect more than 10 goals out of him though.
 

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Beecher doesn’t have a goal scorers shot. And he doesn’t have a play makers vision.

Beecher could be the yellow hungry hungry hippo and still not score 20 goals.

He is a fourth line talent. Having a good bottom six is what separates teams from the pack in my opinion. This turned out to be a good draft pick. He is clearly an NHL player. I will never expect more than 10 goals out of him though.
Refreshing view of his ceiling. If he's going to be a 4th liner then one big aspect he needs to work on is his defensive responsibilities, that's why Boqvist won the 4th line C ...Beecher was unreliable defensively where as Boqvist was reliable (albeit too slight in frame for playoff grind against heavy teams).... so I'm still on the fence with Beecher even on the 4th line... I'm rooting for him though
 

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I could be way off base with my thoughts on Beecher, this kid has the size, speed, and physical tools, and I hope the right attitude , I would really like to see the Bruins really work with this kid, still young and just a feeling he might be a late bloomer. Some players get labeled as 4th liner or a 3rd liner and everyone's opinion fall in line, I have a different take, this is a kid I am interested in seeing where he lands. .............I am probably all wet, but you never know.
I don't know what his ceiling is, as they say. But last year, he impressed me with solid play, very good skating and not bad in the dot either. I like him and wish him well. There is likely more growing to do.
 

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I was going to post this 8 games ago but kept hoping he'd snap out of it.

Beecher has like 1 assist in his past 23 games.🫣

A secondary assist on an EN goal. He's a black hole on offense. I get that he's doing well on face-offs, but this is astoundingly awful offensive production.

True, but he's still a +3 for the season on a team full of minus players.
 

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I was going to post this 8 games ago but kept hoping he'd snap out of it.

Beecher has like 1 assist in his past 23 games.🫣

A secondary assist on an EN goal. He's a black hole on offense. I get that he's doing well on face-offs, but this is astoundingly awful offensive production.
Koepke only has a point in 1 of his last 19 games (he had the empty netter).
 

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Seems fine to me. I was never expecting much though. I think his job is to win faceoffs and get the puck into the offensive zone. Has he not done that for the most part?
 
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Yeah no problem with the player at all. Not sure what else anyone wanted from him. Just because a guy is a fast skater doesn’t mean he’s bound to be a “goal scorer” and if he isn’t, is otherwise useless.
 
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Seems fine to me. I was never expecting much though. I think his job is to win faceoffs and get the puck into the offensive zone. Has he not done that for the most part?
He is doing his job, you are right. I say trade him and then watch him blossom.
 

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Koepke-Beecher-Kastelic has still been on the ice for only 1 goal against in 157 minutes.
The hot offensive start was never going to be sustained all season, but it was nice while it lasted. That line, and Beecher particularly (since this is his thread) play hard, annoy other teams by speed (as pointed out above) and by forechecking hard and creating chaos. They wear other teams defensemen down. They don't need to score much- they are doing their jobs well and have done since game 1 unlike most of the rest of the team.
 

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He is doing his job, you are right. I say trade him and then watch him blossom.
I compare him to Sean Kuraly, similar size and style. Scored 50 points in his first two seasons with Columbus but has settled into his role as a fourth liner. Not exactly “blossoming” but valuable nonetheless.
 

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