Confirmed with Link: Joel Farabee re-signs 6 YR 5 AAV

[Juicy Pop]

At the very least you can say the Schenn trade has worked out favorably.

 

[Hockeypete49]

I am jacked!!!

 

[phil162888]

If G wants to return the front office will find a way to make it happen

1000%.... Fletcher has done a great job this summer except for the Risto deal (which I like the player but the price was way too high) and perhaps the Ghost dump.. However the good outweighed the bad and the Couts and now Farabee signing turn this off season into a major success..... We have a ton of depth and if the team and G have a good year he will 100% be back next season and beyond.

Were in a tough division but I think we're going to have a great season and surprise a lot of doubters on this board let alone other teams

 

[Rich Nixon]

Were in a tough division but I think we're going to have a great season and surprise a lot of doubters on this board let alone other teams

And if not I think we fire a coach. Win-win.

 

[Adam Warlock]

Man Flyers love betting on their youth with these "lets throw money at them when theyre young and hope its a steal later" deals. To their credit, it has worked out in the past with guys like coots and simmonds.

I think Joel can out perform this...but it wouldnt surprise me if he has a disappointing year this season. Itd be exciting if he built on last season and continued that play over a full season, but we arent that lucky.

 

[flyerslducks]

At the very least you can say the Schenn trade has worked out favorably.

And that’s just off one player. Frost can make is a runaway of a trade

 

[Ghosts Beer]

I'm pretty sure St. Louis is happy with the trade, also. Getting Brayden Schenn and dumping Lehtera's salary helped win them Stanley Cup.

 

[Curufinwe]

Man Flyers love betting on their youth with these "lets throw money at them when theyre young and hope its a steal later" deals. To their credit, it has worked out in the past with guys like coots and simmonds.

They're also happy to bridge their youth.

Giroux - 3 x $3.75m
Couturier - 2 x $1.75m
Schenn - 2 x $2.5m
Sanheim - 2 x $3.25m
Lindblom - 3 x $3m
Myers - 3 x $2.55m
Hart - 3 x $3.979m

 

[deadhead]

Some abridged notes from Development camp:
Flyers development camp review: Cam York's composure, Morgan Frost's creativity, other standouts and more takeaways – The Athletic

Cam York: Also, despite his heavy offseason focus on increasing his functional strength, York’s defensive work in two-on-one cycle drills — which lean less on mobility and more on physicality and leverage — could be best categorized as inconsistent. On the whole, York impressed. He was clearly one of the top-end prospects at camp.

Morgan Frost: No one at this camp even came close to his offensive creativity level. While he still isn’t quite 100 percent recovered from February shoulder surgery, he didn’t look limited. According to Frost himself, the remainder of his rehab is more about strengthening his shoulder to prevent future injuries — not getting it back to where it once was. That’s already happened.

Egor Zamula: He certainly looks stronger than he did last season. He had little trouble engaging with bigger players this week. York thrived playing defense on two-on-one rush drills and was inconsistent in two-on-one reps that more simulated cycle play; Zamula was dominant in down-low defense but occasionally looked awkward trying to defend two-on-one rushes. York stood out more for his “do-the-little-things-right” plays over the first three days of camp, while Zamula had more flash plays.

Tyson Foerster: Foerster’s skating: his well-known biggest weakness. It was noticeably improved from where it was back at Flyers training camp in early 2021. Foerster’s top gear is nothing special, and his stride certainly looks clunky and stiff at times. But he wasn’t losing many short-area races to loose pucks, and his change-of-direction ability — particularly when protecting the puck — was much improved from nine months ago. It’s clear he is working on his lower-body strength, and it’s having an impact on his burst and lateral mobility.

Wade Allison: Foerster clearly possesses plus shooting ability. But he wasn’t tops in that category at development camp for one big reason: Wade Allison was. Allison can absolutely rip the puck. Forester can pick corners, but Allison’s release is quicker and far more explosive.

Samu Tuomaala: Tuomaala had a skating gear that no one else at camp possessed. His acceleration was effortless, and he gained easy separation with his pivots during the more competitive drills. There were other players who flashed plus skating ability this week, Millman and Zech, but Tuomaala easily won the crown as the best all-around skater. The degree of bend and torque on his stick when he shoots is noticeable. It’s a high-effort release, and the resulting shot has quite a bit of zip.

Samuel Ersson: Ersson’s movements in early-morning drills were far more sudden and explosive than those of Ustimenko. Ersson isn’t an especially flashy goalie; his style is more in the economical vein of Carter Hart.

Tanner Laczynski: He stated with confidence that he would be ready for the main camp in September, and even his limited participation in development camp just 18 weeks after his surgery (original timeframe for recovery: 16 weeks) bodes well.

Isaac Ratcliffe: He didn’t stand out too much in drills but was one of the most consistently impactful forwards during the three-on-three tournament.

Jackson Cates: He looked quicker at this camp than he did in his brief NHL debut, and he was one of the better passing forwards for the tournament-winning Team Orange.

Elliott Desnoyers: He underwent hip surgery in the offseason and was not quite yet at 100 percent. But even this week, Desnoyers’ mobility and defensive tenacity were impressive when he did hit the ice.

Linus Sandin: Sandin was expected to stand out at the three-on-three tournament, and he did just that, scoring three goals and simply looking physically stronger than pretty much everyone on the ice.

Ethan Samson: Samson was a low-key standout during the tournament, skating well and even scoring a goal via an impressive snipe.

Cooper Zech: One of the best skaters at camp, Zech had some memorable moments in drills. His play during the three-on-three tournament was a bit more high-risk; he balanced offensive production (two goals) with a couple of pretty ugly turnovers.

 

[flyersnorth]

I wonder if there's a future for Sandin on this team. He's no longer a "young" prospect, so it behooves him to really give it everything he's got so he can stand out as first among peers and get first callup to fill in for injuries.

If the team moves NAK for cap/roster (not waiver exempt), maybe that opens the door for Sandin as 4RW? Even then, it's tight.

 

[renberg]

I wonder if there's a future for Sandin on this team. He's no longer a "young" prospect, so it behooves him to really give it everything he's got so he can stand out as first among peers and get first callup to fill in for injuries.

If the team moves NAK for cap/roster (not waiver exempt), maybe that opens the door for Sandin as 4RW? Even then, it's tight.

I'd rather have Sandin around than Thompson and, unless he shows well, Brassard. I don't know why they brought him over from Sweden if they're not going to giver him a shot. He can get goals in those dirty places and his defense is not weak.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

I'd rather have Sandin around than Thompson and, unless he shows well, Brassard. I don't know why they brought him over from Sweden if they're not going to giver him a shot. He can get goals in those dirty places and his defense is not weak.

He’s going to have to do better than 10 points in 26 AHL games to earn a spot.

 

[renberg]

He’s going to have to do better than 10 points in 26 AHL games to earn a spot.

I'm not going off of last year in LV alone. He was a better player in Sweden than he showed here. He has scoring skills and they showed overseas and in camp. That they didn't show as well here could be a Gordon effect. Anyway, he's a better player than Thompson.

 

[deadhead]

You'll get a better read on Sandin this fall, a lot of SHL players need a half a season or so to adjust to the NA game, Lindblom was a good example. So with that under his belt, if he's NHL ready, it'll soon be obvious.

 

[renberg]

You'll get a better read on Sandin this fall, a lot of SHL players need a half a season or so to adjust to the NA game, Lindblom was a good example. So with that under his belt, if he's NHL ready, it'll soon be obvious.

Sandin is a bottom mixer and most likely a four liner. However he at least has some ability to score left in his game which is more than Thompson has. Supposedly Thompson has some face-off ability but what we saw out of him in the POs two seasons ago he wasn't that sharp in that area either. Then there is his lack of legs. Of all of the moves made by Fletcher this summer, signing Thompson, to me was the worst. And on a 35+ deal as well. Horrible.

 

[dragonoffrost]

I'm not sure why all the 35+ stuff keeps being said about Thompson's deal as it's not multiyear and has no bonuses. It's the perfect bury in the AHL Deal until you add AV to the equation.

 

[deadhead]

Sandin is a bottom mixer and most likely a four liner. However he at least has some ability to score left in his game which is more than Thompson has. Supposedly Thompson has some face-off ability but what we saw out of him in the POs two seasons ago he wasn't that sharp in that area either. Then there is his lack of legs. Of all of the moves made by Fletcher this summer, signing Thompson, to me was the worst. And on a 35+ deal as well. Horrible.

35+ is irrelevant since it's a one year deal.
Thompson can play center, Sandin doesn't, so he's a better press box candidate.

Locks: G, Couts, TK, JVR, Hayes, Atkinson, Farabee, Lindblom, Allison, Laughton
Almost lock: Frost
That leaves one starting spot open for competition.
Sandin, Laczynski, NAK, Brassard are competing for the 12th spot. It's Brassard's job to lose, since only he and Laczynski are 4C options.
Bunnaman and Cates will have to be lights out in camp to even garner consideration.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

I'm not going off of last year in LV alone. He was a better player in Sweden than he showed here. He has scoring skills and they showed overseas and in camp. That they didn't show as well here could be a Gordon effect. Anyway, he's a better player than Thompson.

I don’t know what Sandin is, but he hasn’t proven he’s an NHLer yet, he’s not a great skater, & he doesn’t play C.

That said, he probably only needs to beat out NAK to win a 12/13th forward role. Maybe he can do that with a great camp & preseason, but I’m not holding my breath.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Man Flyers love betting on their youth with these "lets throw money at them when theyre young and hope its a steal later" deals. To their credit, it has worked out in the past with guys like coots and simmonds.

I think Joel can out perform this...but it wouldnt surprise me if he has a disappointing year this season. Itd be exciting if he built on last season and continued that play over a full season, but we arent that lucky.

The CBA obviously limits these players leverage so you’re getting discounts. But you’re also generally paying for years where a player is going to supply the most value they can during their careers. As more players than not generally had their best three year runs in that age 23-26 year old window give or take. Of course there’s some exceptions & one off years but for the most part that rings true for most players.

The NHL obviously in general is more liberal in this area than they used to be but still they hand out premium contracts for far more riskier contracts with aging players in their late 20’s/early 30’s. Those contracts are far more likely to hurt you than the younger players.

 

[GapToothedWonder]

Were in a tough division but I think we're going to have a great season and surprise a lot of doubters on this board let alone other teams

I don't think there are many doubters on this board that think they will be all that bad next season. I think they doubt there is a coherent plan moving forward and the Flyers are setting themselves up to be a playoff bubble/first round doormat team for the next 5+ years. Maybe topping out at a few years in a row of winning one playoff round.

It will be a continuation of the last 10 years of frustration.

 

[RationalExpectations]

Great signing. In my opinion with Ellis Ristolainen Yandle arriving, Farabee getting more experienced every year and entering his prime, PHI should make the playoffs this year except if goaltending goes in the way.

Metro is stacked but PHI may be the team which has improved the most (NYR has focused on being able to fight Wilson, NYI WSH and PIT have not done anything, CAR has lost Hamilton and replaced him with DeAngelo)

 

[Bigkarl]

Man Flyers love betting on their youth with these "lets throw money at them when theyre young and hope its a steal later" deals. To their credit, it has worked out in the past with guys like coots and simmonds.

I think Joel can out perform this...but it wouldnt surprise me if he has a disappointing year this season. Itd be exciting if he built on last season and continued that play over a full season, but we arent that lucky.

I think they’ve done well with their RFA’s, with the exception of Sanheim and an overpay on Hart.

They locked up the young guys they feel are future cornerstones long term before they could break out. They bridged the young guys who still have a lot to prove.

 

[Kelmitchell2]

To bad Thompson is a lock to make the team and start....I'd love to start one of the young guy over him

 

[deadhead]

When you look at the NHL/AHL rosters, they're pretty set for the next few years going forward, especially at forward, where Laczynski, Foerster, Wisdom, N Cates, JOB and Brink provide young depth.

Nor are they dependent on Risto returning next year, or Sanheim two years from now, with York, Zamula, Hogberg, Millman, Attard, they have options to fill those spots and/or trade bait for a young RHD.

And Ersson, Ustimenko and Fedotov provide insurance policies for Hart.

It's hard to make any credible plan more than three years out, but I'd see they're pretty set the next few years, even with this offseason's "win now" moves, they have plenty of talent left in the pipeline. One reason for those moves was FO pressure, but the other was the lack of slots, if you think Frost is ready to be the 3C there really wasn't room for Patrick, Myers was getting expensive for a 3rd pair role, etc. It'll be the same next summer if a few AHL/college players are ready to challenge for jobs.

 

[FlyerNutter]

Andreas Nodl

Or perhaps a Niko Dimitrakos.