WeThreeKings
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If they are re-signing him, it should be one year deals only. We have a lot of promising players who need room to make it into the line-up eventually and that's harder to do when your bottom 6 all has term.
Player Discussion Joel Armia turnaround year?
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Victoire HuGo
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I think 2 years would be okay too. No real impact on trade ability and improves chances of him staying.
I have zero problem with Armia at 2 X 2M or 2 X 2.5M. He becomes easily traceable if a youngster comes knocking.
At worse, even when he isn't scoring, he is a puck possession monster and his physical presence in this capacity is essential to a continued strong forecheck, IMO. His work on the PK also helps solidify your lineup. I don't really think there are that many players ready to leapfrog into the NHL in such a role as a winger.
The problem isn't Armia, but, rather, Anderson and Gallagher who are signed longer term and unmovable at their Cap hit with that remaining term. That's what makes Armia a trade chip presently, to free up some space for prospects with designs on an NHL roster spot.
If Montreal re-signs Evans (as they likely will, given the uncertainty at C in the short to medium term, barring a trade or a draft lottery win into the top-3), Beck can likely replace Dvorak and we get one last crack at project Dach who will need to stay healthy an entire season and play consistently at a top-6 level at C to calm fans' fears and meet expectations. Suzuki is a proven commodity and a 1st line lock if he continues to progress to a PPG level, or beyond.
At worse, even when he isn't scoring, he is a puck possession monster and his physical presence in this capacity is essential to a continued strong forecheck, IMO. His work on the PK also helps solidify your lineup. I don't really think there are that many players ready to leapfrog into the NHL in such a role as a winger.
The problem isn't Armia, but, rather, Anderson and Gallagher who are signed longer term and unmovable at their Cap hit with that remaining term. That's what makes Armia a trade chip presently, to free up some space for prospects with designs on an NHL roster spot.
If Montreal re-signs Evans (as they likely will, given the uncertainty at C in the short to medium term, barring a trade or a draft lottery win into the top-3), Beck can likely replace Dvorak and we get one last crack at project Dach who will need to stay healthy an entire season and play consistently at a top-6 level at C to calm fans' fears and meet expectations. Suzuki is a proven commodity and a 1st line lock if he continues to progress to a PPG level, or beyond.
WeThreeKings
Habs cup - its in the BAG
I can live with Anderson.. but Gallagher after his hot start is basically doing nothing but going off-side whenever he has the puck. He's not even penalty killing and he's a blackhole on PP2.
There is no chair for Gallagher. Anderson at least re-invented himself into a physical, penalty killing bottom sixer with speed who can occasionally put the puck in the net. He's overpaid, yes, but he carved a niche.
Gallagher is overpaid and has no niche.
Deebs
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If the team falls out of a playoff spot, trade Armia. If we're in the mix, keep him and treat him as a picked up player at the deadline. The great thing about him this year is he's playing well and no matter how we finish up the year, it will help us because we either get a decent return on him or he helps us until we're out. Army should not be re-signed because so incredibly inconsistent and unreliable.
If the team does bring him back, as you say, 1 year deals should be the only thing on the table and I'm not sure he accepts but ya never know.
If the team does bring him back, as you say, 1 year deals should be the only thing on the table and I'm not sure he accepts but ya never know.
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We have to remember that the guy is a slow starter. It's been like this every single year. He's almost invisible for the first 20-25 games then he turns it on and becomes an essential part of us winning games.
If we're to make the playoffs he's valuable and I guess we sort of have to be OK with him being a slow starter because he'll be there when it counts.
If we're to make the playoffs he's valuable and I guess we sort of have to be OK with him being a slow starter because he'll be there when it counts.
BLONG7
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This is a frustrating player...............Armia is not having a turnaround year........his agent and wife reminded him he has NO contract next year. He loves to disappear for 8-9 games at a time, most of his career.
He is not worth 3.4M and never was..............
He has played well, but if they do decide to keep him, no way do they pay him more than 2.5M for the next 2-3 seasons.................he is an off guy more than an on guy.
He is hard to watch more often than not........
He is not worth 3.4M and never was..............
He has played well, but if they do decide to keep him, no way do they pay him more than 2.5M for the next 2-3 seasons.................he is an off guy more than an on guy.
He is hard to watch more often than not........
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Gallagher is but you see what happened to the Rangers when they disrespected some of their aging warriors? In Gooderow and Trouba. Sends a bad message to your dressing room
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He can only stay if one of Gallagher or Anderson get moved (hopefully Gallagher)
That's just how it is unfortunately because of those contracts by the genius
I'm pleased with his play this year but he's not at *MUST KEEP* level like Evans is currently doing
That's just how it is unfortunately because of those contracts by the genius
I'm pleased with his play this year but he's not at *MUST KEEP* level like Evans is currently doing
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I don't know what the numbers look like on a buyout, but i would really strongly think about it for Gally.
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WeThreeKings
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I'm not suggesting forcing Gallagher to move by disrespecting and doing back door deals to get around the NMC. That's what sent the bad message to the dressing room.
Moving on from older, broken down players who can't hack it anymore is professional sports. Being shady to get out of a NMC you negotiated, with two veterans, including your captain, is anothing thing entirely.
I wish he was bought out at the end of this season...but I will be very surprised if they did it.
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Dagistitsyn
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The amount of people suddenly willing to re-sign Dvorak because he decided to show up at the very very end of a 6 year contract in which he was mostly invisible, inefficient, seemingly disinterested entirely for most of it... yikes. I mean, Im really glad he's playing well and contributing when we needed him to the most but I'd be extremely hesitant to resign him for more than 1 year, and under no circumstances more than 2 - if he takes a yearly reduction. (He's not worth 4.45)
At least Armia was an excellent penalty killer who ate a ton of minutes in the o-zone with his high end puck protection along the boards / chemistry with Evans - *when* he was healthy.
He has to be playing injured and has been useless for weeks now. He can't shoot at all right now. The real question is why the coach isn't resting him, because he is not helping the team like this. Torn on what I'd do with him. When he is on his game and healthy, he's better suited for the bottom 6 than anyone we have ready to step in still at this point.
