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Joe Rogan - Butchering deer in front of vegan protestors

Not sure what's worse: the people who think wild deer are their friends or all the meatheads who think the amount of beef and pork in their diet is even halfway sustainable. Probably the latter.
 
Old news. This is why veganism gets nowhere, the practitioners are often way too militant and just turn a lot of people off with their holier than thou attitude.
 
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beowulf said:
Old news. This is why veganism gets nowhere, the practitioners are often way too militant and just turn a lot of people off with their holier than thou attitude.
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seems like most Canadians are too sensitive now
 
MetalheadPenguinsFan said:
We Canadians are too liberal/soft though.

It's gross.
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Things we now know about Canadian culture

- fined Mike Ward a ridiculous amount for making an "offensive" joke at a comedy club
- enacted a provincial pitbull ban despite one person being killed by a pitbull
- changed the lyrics to a perfectly good song
- threw a fit when deer were butchered in front of vegan protestors
 
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Chef who butchered a deer leg in front of vegan protesters: 'We won't change'

“The owner, a hunter, is smiling,” scoffed Len Goldberg, one of the activists, as he filmed the action and broadcast it live to his Facebook page. “He’s rejoicing in the dismembering of an animal!” Goldberg’s video – posted under the title “RESTAURANT OWNER TAUNTS US by DISMEMBERING a DEER’S LEG in VIEW of OUR PROTEST” – swiftly went viral.
Hunter’s counter-protest was quickly picked up by Canadian and international news outlets and has sparked a food debate in the country.
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Canadians are too easily offended.
 
G F O P said:
Things we now know about Canadian culture

- fined Mike Ward a ridiculous amount for making an "offensive" joke at a comedy club
- enacted a provincial pitbull ban despite one person being killed by a pitbull
- changed the lyrics to a perfectly good song
- threw a fit when deer were butchered in front of vegan protestors
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Come visit Canada!
It's North Korea for liberals!
 
beowulf said:
Old news. This is why veganism gets nowhere, the practitioners are often way too militant and just turn a lot of people off with their holier than thou attitude.
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Some vegans protest establishments killing animals (and things like foie gras from this particular one) for certain taste pleasures and convenience, and then calling said act humane/ethical even though as a concept it's a complete paradox. Then many others see those people as "militant" as long as it's not certain animals like dogs, while also stereotyping most vegans to be like this minority of more aggressive individuals who have been spotlighted for them.

While obviously assuming it's about the vegans themselves being superior in some way when the message has always been that we shouldn't see other sentient beings so inferior to us that they don't deserve some basic moral consideration.

This is why veganism gets nowhere indeed.
Deficient Mode said:
Not sure what's worse: the people who think wild deer are their friends or all the meatheads who think the amount of beef and pork in their diet is even halfway sustainable. Probably the latter.
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Considering the amount of people actually thinking those things, and then the real life impacts of those ways of thinking, I'd agree.
 
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Juzmo said:
Some vegans protest establishments killing animals (and things like foie gras from this particular one) for certain taste pleasures and convenience, and then calling said act humane/ethical even though as a concept it's a complete paradox. Then many others see those people as "militant" as long as it's not certain animals like dogs, while also stereotyping most vegans to be like this minority of more aggressive individuals who have been spotlighted for them.

While obviously assuming it's about the vegans themselves being superior in some way when the message has always been that we shouldn't see other sentient beings so inferior to us that they don't deserve some basic moral consideration.

This is why veganism gets nowhere indeed.

Considering the amount of people actually thinking those things, and then the real life impacts of those ways of thinking, I'd agree.
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You don't change a person minds by force, it virtually never works. Look at PETA and the lack of respect people have for them because of their militant ways. Now if you set up booths with factual information about how less animals being raised for food will improve the environment and at said booth maybe have someone cooking good vegan meals that are easy to prepare, then you are more likely to get people to listen and possibly cut back on meat consumption and in time maybe totally stop the use of animal products.
 
beowulf said:
You don't change a person minds by force, it virtually never works. Look at PETA and the lack of respect people have for them because of their militant ways. Now if you set up booths with factual information about how less animals being raised for food will improve the environment and at said booth maybe have someone cooking good vegan meals that are easy to prepare, then you are more likely to get people to listen and possibly cut back on meat consumption and in time maybe totally stop the use of animal products.
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Force :laugh:

People say the same about any form of protest. People aren't going to stop eating a pound of meat a day because you present them with facts.
 
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Deficient Mode said:
Force :laugh:

People say the same about any form of protest. People aren't going to stop eating a pound of meat a day because you present them with facts.
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Yes force...that is how they are trying to change them. You have to make them want to change on their own.

I've been vegan, did it for about 8 months when I started college in the last 90s. These days I do eat meat but I limit what I eat and in my case it's for environmental reasons. I eat red meat maybe once every ten days or so. I eat fish a couple of time a week but I look for sustainable catches and limit certain types of fish like tuna etc. As the owner of Antler says in the video, ethical farming does exist and I look for meats from place like that. Ohh and I have pretty much given up dairy, don't drink milk anymore, haven't for about two years. I'll each cheese or something if I go to a friends dinner party or something and they have a cheese platter or if I make a homemade lasagna I'll buy cheese for it but my fridge is empty as for as dairy goes.

I believe in moderation and smart eating over full on veganism.
 
beowulf said:
Yes force...that is how they are trying to change them. You have to make them want to change on their own.

I've been vegan, did it for about 8 months when I started college in the last 90s. These days I do eat meat but I limit what I eat and in my case it's for environmental reasons. I eat red meat maybe once every ten days or so. I eat fish a couple of time a week but I look for sustainable catches and limit certain types of fish like tuna etc. As the owner of Antler says in the video, ethical farming does exist and I look for meats from place like that. Ohh and I have pretty much given up dairy, don't drink milk anymore, haven't for about two years. I'll each cheese or something if I go to a friends dinner party or something and they have a cheese platter or if I make a homemade lasagna I'll buy cheese for it but my fridge is empty as for as dairy goes.

I believe in moderation and smart eating over full on veganism.
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"Ethical" farming can't produce meat at nearly the volume or the price at which most people will buy and consume it.
 
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