Montoyo looked like a dunce to start but even in the beginning it was pretty obvious the team likes to play for him. Even better now that he's learned on the job.
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Montoyo looked like a dunce to start but even in the beginning it was pretty obvious the team likes to play for him. Even better now that he's learned on the job.
It was the 9th inning, 15-4 blow-out game, position player pitching and throwing in the ~45 mph range, and you ignore the take sign on 3-0, swing, hit a HR and then pimp it.
If there were ever a situation for an "unwritten rule" that was it.
La Russa, however, has made a complete and public mess of it.
If there were ever a situation for an "unwritten rule" that was it.
La Russa, however, has made a complete and public mess of it.
BertCorbeau
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I'd say the argument more is the batter not following the coaches sign for taking it more than an unwritten rule.
But I agree La Russa is made a public mess about it.
BertCorbeau
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Even if it is about the sign, most managers would probably just pull the guy aside and be like "hey im glad you crushed that ball but please take next time especially when it's a closer game or something"
That's all you have to do. Acknowledge the player's good work and then explain to him what you'd like done differently in another situation. Not this shit La Russa is doing.
That's all you have to do. Acknowledge the player's good work and then explain to him what you'd like done differently in another situation. Not this shit La Russa is doing.
They're professional athletes. They can handle getting blown out. Astudillo coming in is a Twins problem, not a Mercedes problem; if the Twins really cared what happened in the 9th inning, they had real pitchers they could have brought into the game. And to be clear, "pimping" in this case is standing at the plate for somewhere around half a second before starting a completely normal HR trot.
Unwritten rules are always stupid.
Tony La Russa knows more about the mystical unwritten rules of baseball than actual written laws.
Zero risk considering he's at gold discard basically. Might take a couple updates though.
That's kinda what I was thinking. Worse comes to worse I can sell the 50 I bought for a meager profit.
Kinda laughable his control is at a 60 when outside of his pitch mix, that's probably his best asset.
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It wasn't hard to see this coming. Makes me wonder what the White Sox brain trust was thinking. You take a team that is full of young, exciting talent and your managerial decision is "hey, let's hire a stuffy old-time manager that's still going to run things like it's 1975!"
The game has changed, Tony. Adapt or perish.
The answer is Jerry Reinsdorf wanted another drinking buddy and completely overruled his executives. No team hires TLR otherwise. Hahn opposed the hiring too iirc
Except that Tony didn't give him a take sign and this 46mph garbage is his special pitch which is a slow fastball (he hit 84 a couple of years ago)
Tony assumed his player would take a beach ball.
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The broadcast guys were noting recently that John Schneider seems to be playing a far larger role this year and that he and Montoyo seem to be consulting on almost every move, while Dave Hudgens has been sidelined a bit.
I suspect the improved decision-making we're seeing is a result of Schneider's impact.
I was wrong about the take sign
La Russa: White Sox's Mercedes 'clueless' after home run in blow out win
But I would fire this POS on the spot for making comments like these.
It wouldn't shock me if he told Baldelli to hit Mercedes to teach him a lesson.
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Im surprised if LaRussa stays until the end of the season. He possibly could be gone fairly soon.
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Should be honestly. It's funny seeing people say La Russa has them with a great record, so why would they fire him? Unlike other sports, Baseball record isn't influenced by the manager/coach much. They could fire him today and still be in a great spot. Going to say it again, there isn't a difference between a average manager and a great manager.
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Tony La Russa drank and drove just last year.. he can’t even follow written rules. f*** that clown.
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Neither Groshans or Martin in the lineup in AA tonight. 3rd game in a row Martin has missed, and Groshans missed 2 in a row before playing last night but getting pulled part way through. Have we heard anything about any potential injuries to either?
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I know it's early, but if we can get healthy and acquire another legitimate starter, the sky's the limit for this team.
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Even if we set aside the whole nonsense around the unwritten rules of the game and whether it was wrong for Mercedes to swing at the pitch, whether or not he missed a take sign, and what LaRussa thinks of anyone else weighing in on the matter, the one thing that drives me nuts about this the most:
Handle your business in house. What good comes from crucifying a player publicly to the media? What good comes from publicly dressing down Lance Lynn for voicing his opinion on the matter too?
You want to be critical of a player's behavior for whatever valid/invalid reason you see fit? I may not like it but as the boss it's your right to do so in private with that player. Call him into your office after the game and say "I don't think you should've done that. I had a take sign on and I don't agree with you ignoring it." Whether or not I think that the criticism is legitimate, at least it's handled professionally. Because whinging to the media about a guy for something you think is "disrespectful to the game" smacks of hypocrisy. Especially when your history shows you to be no great saint free from sin either. Be a man, deal with the players like adults, and don't go looking for public sympathy brownie points by bleating your issues to a reporter, hoping against reasonable expectation that the audience of 2021 is going to go "yeah! Give 'em hell, Tony!" like they would've when you managed the White Sox in 1981.
Because regardless of whether you think Mercedes looks bad for ambushing a BP pitch in a blowout game, LaRussa looks just as bad if not worse for handling this in just about the most unprofessional manner he could've. Nothing like alienating your locker room in a vain attempt to flex your positional power at them. This isn't the Herb Brooks method of "if I make everyone hate me, they'll work harder to spite me" management. There's no motivation to be gleaned from nonsense like this.
Handle your business in house. What good comes from crucifying a player publicly to the media? What good comes from publicly dressing down Lance Lynn for voicing his opinion on the matter too?
You want to be critical of a player's behavior for whatever valid/invalid reason you see fit? I may not like it but as the boss it's your right to do so in private with that player. Call him into your office after the game and say "I don't think you should've done that. I had a take sign on and I don't agree with you ignoring it." Whether or not I think that the criticism is legitimate, at least it's handled professionally. Because whinging to the media about a guy for something you think is "disrespectful to the game" smacks of hypocrisy. Especially when your history shows you to be no great saint free from sin either. Be a man, deal with the players like adults, and don't go looking for public sympathy brownie points by bleating your issues to a reporter, hoping against reasonable expectation that the audience of 2021 is going to go "yeah! Give 'em hell, Tony!" like they would've when you managed the White Sox in 1981.
Because regardless of whether you think Mercedes looks bad for ambushing a BP pitch in a blowout game, LaRussa looks just as bad if not worse for handling this in just about the most unprofessional manner he could've. Nothing like alienating your locker room in a vain attempt to flex your positional power at them. This isn't the Herb Brooks method of "if I make everyone hate me, they'll work harder to spite me" management. There's no motivation to be gleaned from nonsense like this.
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Manoah through 3 innings, 6 K's, 1 walk, 1 HR for the only hit and run against
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Saw the score and immediately guessed it was Stripling pitching. Please bring up Manoah already. Their start days are the same. It's destiny. lol
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