Proposal: JJ Peterka for Marco Rossi

[IAHockey25]

Ouch lol. Its always funny when you see a team shopping a guy. Then all the fans defend the player. If you like him so much just keep him then.

But these stats aren't even correct...

Why would MN trade a 60 point Young C? I think all us Wild fans are trying to figure it out.

But it seems Guerin values size down the middle.

Will trading Rossi bite him in the ass a few years from now. I would say from watching the games it's 70/30 that it will if it's a 1 for 1 trade. If it's a Rossi plus package for an established scoring C, then not so much.

But putting up stats on a hockey board doesn't make you wrong or correct.....unless the stats are wrong like the ones above

 

[Hockeyfan200]

But these stats aren't even correct...

Why would MN trade a 60 point Young C? I think all us Wild fans are trying to figure it out.

But it seems Guerin values size down the middle.

Will trading Rossi bite him in the ass a few years from now. I would say from watching the games it's 70/30 that it will if it's a 1 for 1 trade. If it's a Rossi plus package for an established scoring C, then not so much.

But putting up stats on a hockey board doesn't make you wrong or correct.....unless the stats are wrong like the ones above

I mean if he somehow pulls magic and get another eriksson ek, then I am all for it. I think that's what he said right?

 

[IAHockey25]

Ouch lol. Its always funny when you see a team shopping a guy. Then all the fans defend the player. If you like him so much just keep him then.

But these stats aren't even correct...

Why would MN trade a 60 point Young C? I think all us Wild fans are trying to figure it out.

But it seems Guerin values size down the middle.

Will trading Rossi bite him in the ass a few years from now. I would say from watching the games it's 70/30 that it will if it's a 1 for 1 trade. If it's a Rossi plus package for an established scoring C, then not so much.

But putting up stats on a hockey board doesn't make you wrong or correct.....unless the stats are wrong like the ones a

I mean if he somehow pulls magic and get another eriksson ek, then I am all for it. I think that's what he said right?

Knowing you have a legit scorer vs guessing on potential usually ends up bad.

If they can package for a known commodity, then I feel better

 

[Hockeyfan200]

But these stats aren't even correct...

Why would MN trade a 60 point Young C? I think all us Wild fans are trying to figure it out.

But it seems Guerin values size down the middle.

Will trading Rossi bite him in the ass a few years from now. I would say from watching the games it's 70/30 that it will if it's a 1 for 1 trade. If it's a Rossi plus package for an established scoring C, then not so much.

But putting up stats on a hockey board doesn't make you wrong or correct.....unless the stats are wrong like the ones a

Knowing you have a legit scorer vs guessing on potential usually ends up bad.

If they can package for a known commodity, then I feel better

I agree. Maybe a Logan Cooley?

 

[IAHockey25]

I agree. Maybe a Logan Cooley?

I wish....I am assuming Cooley isn't going anywhere, but a man can dream

 

[Diablo2020]

Its gonna be Rossi for McLeod because Canucks need both and we're gonna watch them get traded for each other again.

Maybe Buffalo adds a bit.

 

[Chainshot]

Its gonna be Rossi for McLeod because Canucks need both and we're gonna watch them get traded for each other again.

Maybe Buffalo adds a bit.

Buffalo seems really pleased with McLeod. I don’t think they do that.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

Ouch lol. Its always funny when you see a team shopping a guy. Then all the fans defend the player. If you like him so much just keep him then.

You're quoting a guy who gave incorrect stats.

 

[AKL]

You're quoting a guy who gave incorrect stats.

I think that's his jam. He was in one of these threads the other day claiming blatantly false and misleading "facts" about Rossi and Hayton, and said if you disagree with him it was because you're just biased and don't wanna have a reasonable discussion with him.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

Heh. You'd think that a team like us would be drowning in cap space.

RIGHT NOW, as it stands -- we've got about $8M in cap space and still have to sign the following RFAs:
Ryan McLeod
Jack Quinn
Bowen Byram
JJ Peterka (or Marco Rossi in this trade)
Jacob Bernard-Docker

AND we still need a backup goalie, so that's roughly $1M gone right off the top.

So if we did trade for Brodin -- that basically necessitates that we trade away 2 of Byram, Power or Samuelsson.

If we took on Trenin, we'd likely have to throw Lafferty back at you.......which probably isn't appealing to y'all.

We're in tough against the cap for a team that finished as poorly as we did. We have PLENTY of ways out of it though....if Adams knows what he's doing.

What would the add from Minnesota need to be to swap Kulich out for Power?

Rossi + Brodin + ? + ?
For
Peterka + Power

 

[tsujimoto74]

What would the add from Minnesota need to be to swap Kulich out for Power?

Rossi + Brodin + ? + ?
For
Peterka + Power

You’d need to swap Brodin for Faber. The Sabres aren’t trading a 22yo recent 1st overall pick for a guy in his 30s + spare parts.

 

[Hockeyfan200]

You’d need to swap Brodin for Faber. The Sabres aren’t trading a 22yo recent 1st overall pick for a guy in his 30s + spare parts.

with all due respect, no

 

[Zman5778]

What would the add from Minnesota need to be to swap Kulich out for Power?

Rossi + Brodin + ? + ?
For
Peterka + Power

Darned good question.

I'd absolutely be willing to do a swap like you're suggesting. But I don't know what a good add would be........

 

[f7ben]

Rossi + Brodin for Peterka and Quinn

 

[Sota Popinski]

Lol.. Brock Faber is 22 years old and has already had almost a 50 point season... Fabers value is astronomical right now... what a horrible argument

I also judge defensemen solely on points

 

[Beerz]

I also judge defensemen solely on points
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It is not me.. it is the league..like forever. Surely you can find examples of all these Defensive Dmen potting 20 to 30 points a year at the age of 31 that is pulling in huge returns in a trade.

 

[BFLO]

Rossi + Brodin for Peterka and Quinn

Buffalo accepts.

 

[Hockeyfan200]

Buffalo accepts.

wild don't. Brodin isn't getting traded especially for wingers. One winger is enough , so no.

 

[tsujimoto74]

Rossi + Brodin for Peterka and Quinn

That’d be highway robbery for the Sabres with the season Quinn just had. No way the Wild touch that.

 

[MNRube]

Going back to your previous post about Brodin -- I full well realize that the Wild have basically less than zero reason to move him at this point in time.

Personally, I'd put both Kulich and Peterka on the table for him....and likely add a bit from there. Kulich was a revelation at center the last 20ish games of the season, and really looks like he has a future there. And JJP has been well-discussed.

So what else would need to be added to ensure that we plop Brodin next to Dahlin for a while?

@Wabit told me emphatically that Brodin is a horrible fit in Buffalo because he’s not a RHD. But here Sabres fans are saying the same thing I was: Brodin is a perfect fit with either Power & Dahlin in the Top 4. Can play both sides (like Dahlin), either to babysit Power or to form a dominant top pair with his countryman. It’s like people think shutdown RHD grow on trees

 

[f7ben]

That’d be highway robbery for the Sabres with the season Quinn just had. No way the Wild touch that.

Rossi for Peterka is close , clearing brodins co space and getting a big time potential top 6 young player in return is good enough for me. Brodin is getting old and is often injured.

 

[KaprizovSaveUs]

I don’t think Brodin is really available. He’s the best defensive player we have. Understandably, it seems like Buffalo fans don’t want to do a Leterka / Rossi swap. My guess is Rossi goes for around a 1st + 2nd + 3rd in terms of value. Maybe less later picks if the first is higher.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

I don’t think Brodin is really available. He’s the best defensive player we have. Understandably, it seems like Buffalo fans don’t want to do a Leterka / Rossi swap. My guess is Rossi goes for around a 1st + 2nd + 3rd in terms of value. Maybe less later picks if the first is higher.

Trading Rossi for less than what we gave up for Jiricek would be a choice.

 

[KaprizovSaveUs]

Trading Rossi for less than what we gave up for Jiricek would be a choice.

Right and I’d hope we could get more, but I guess if they use that 6-7M Rossi was going to cost in cap space well it could work.

 

[57special]

Going back to your previous post about Brodin -- I full well realize that the Wild have basically less than zero reason to move him at this point in time.

Personally, I'd put both Kulich and Peterka on the table for him....and likely add a bit from there. Kulich was a revelation at center the last 20ish games of the season, and really looks like he has a future there. And JJP has been well-discussed.

So what else would need to be added to ensure that we plop Brodin next to Dahlin for a while?

A 31-32 yo Brodin isn't worth JJP and Kulich. Brodin for JJ ... I'd like it, as a Wild fan, but as a sometime BUF fan, they should really keep hold of JJ because of his youth. I am somewhat ignorant of Kulich, but would not consider him enough in return for Brodin. I would consider a Kulich + deal...maybe Kulich + Wahlberg? I don't think that the 9th oa for Brodin would interest Guerin much. He wants the team to compete next year, and I also don't think that this year is the strongest draft, especially once you get past Schafer and Misa. Waiting 3-4 years for a guy who might be as good as JJP isn't that appealing.

Others have said that Dahlin doesn't need to play with Brodin, because he makes everyone better already, but Brodin does the same thing. He props up weaker Dmen, and allows offensive Dman to go up ice, as Brodin is a breakout master. I could see Dahlin winning a Norris if Brodin was his D partner. A Brodin/Dahlin pairing would be a top pairing in the league, and could play against anyone. Brodin could also take a lot of the PK TOI away from Dahlin, saving him for ES and PP TOI.

BTW, i am a huge Brodin fan, and would hate to see him go, but even I can see that MN can't continue to load up on dmen at the expense of the forward group. MN needs to balance their lineup. Conversely, BUF has to become a better defensive team. They've now got a decent goaltending situation ... could use a bit more beef and defense up front, but maybe Greenway can stay healthy, and McLeod has been terrific. Brodin would really help defensively, and probably would jell with Dahlin, as well as former teammates Zucker, Greenway, and Tuch.